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Stop Doing Discord (beehaw.org)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by kalanggam@beehaw.org to c/humor@beehaw.org
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Repost from @technomancy@icosahedron.website

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Stop doing Discord

  • capitalists were not supposed to own your community
  • Years of hanging out yet no real-world use found for sending your private data to be sold to advertisers
  • Wanted to leak private data anyway for a laugh? We had a tool for that; it was called "turning off ublock origin"
  • "Yes please search our chat archive for answers to your question. it will certainly remain up forever and not get deleted when the shareholders realize it's not profitable" statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

Look at what discord admins have been demanding your respect for all this time:

  • task manager screenshot, discord using 97% of CPU
  • discord making too many automated requests and getting throttled
  • crash screenshot

"3rd-party client? lifetime ban"

They have played us for absolute fools

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[-] ellabella@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Sadly I couldn't get away. All my irl friends are in Discord.

[-] skycat@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Let's move to xmpp. Matrix is bloated

[-] ComputerSagtNein@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Let's be real here for a second: Companies are NEVER your friend. NEVER EVER. But if you keep looking for it, you will find something that makes you leave every company behind. You'll end up in the woods. Some ignorance is needed to live a decent life. You can act if a company gets to a point where it's too much.

[-] perkele@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I honestly wouldn't mind seeing an extension to the IRC spec to bring in reasonable discord-like functionality to some servers. It's time we start moving back to open standards from walled gardens.

[-] haircutsuey@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

how can I join this discord server?

[-] terrorismchord@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Geometry Dash what that mean?

[-] BlackCoffee@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I literally only use discord to voice chat with my friends once a year when we are gaming.

Do people use it for other stuff?

[-] kalanggam@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, some developers use Discord to provide technical/product support - this is where the "Yes please search our chat archive for answers to your question. it will certainly remain up forever and not get deleted when the shareholders realize it’s not profitable" comes from. It's honestly really annoying, since I don't really want to add yet another Discord server to my existing clutter just to get an answer that may not even be there.

I really only like using Discord as a parallel community, like the Discord guild for Beehaw or the ones I used to be on which were associated with other forums/subreddits/etc. Making it a privileged channel for getting important announcements, support, or other information feels like stretching it beyond what it's good for, on top of the fact that it's still corporate and stuff could (and does) happen to it without user input.

[-] BeardedGuy@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I can't remember what Discord did at the time, but there was a decent push to try and move to a different platform. We tried out Guilded, but we had a pretty hard time getting adoption from the users on our Discord server and ended up dropping the transition.

I didn't think I'd ever say this again, but TeamSpeak 5 is actually looking like it could be the solution we're looking for. I still need to figure out how I can host a server compatible with version 5 though.

[-] communist@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

What about element/matrix?

[-] BeardedGuy@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I only just learned about that combination yesterday. Sounds like I should look into it a bit more?

[-] communist@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Absolutely, it's fantastic and I highly recommend it.

I use community.rs if you're in NA it's pretty good.

[-] YuzuDrink@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Does Matrix have an equivalent to "servers" on Discord? Like, I can join one and it comes with a bunch of chat rooms owned and moderated by the same community? Because that's the biggest thing I used Discord for is following and interacting with communities I'm in; and I just fired up Element and I see nothing that hints that it would be possible...

[-] communist@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, they're called spaces.

If you're on the desktop, they're the thing on the far left where you see a home icon

[-] YuzuDrink@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Hey, thanks! I’ve now found them!

[-] Hellebert@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Discord is easily accessible text/image and voice chat that just works for the majority. If you want people to switch off it then you're going to need Matrix to catch up in basic features and accessibility at the very least.

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I mean honestly has matrix not caught up? It's been perfectly usable and honestly more responsive than discord so far. The only real pain point was the most baseline effort that goes into e2e encryption but even then that wasn't really.. difficult?

[-] Hellebert@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Does it have voice chat built in and is it as easy to use and accessible as Discord?

Last time I looked this was not the case. No point lecturing people until Matrix or a viable alternative catches up at least.

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah it has voice chat, video calls, and screen sharing. I haven't tested any of them yet personally (soon™) but they are stated features. Element in particular is rolling out video rooms right now, still in beta, which operate identically to voice channels in discord from a UX perspective. So all said not too bad.

[-] Hellebert@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I see that it has 8 person voip.. but does it have an actual voice chat like Discord?

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Voip is a voice chat, so your question doesn't make much sense. You can voice chat in voice rooms identically to discord, as I said above.

There is no longer an eight person limit on video or voice calls. There is a limit depending on your server.

[-] Hellebert@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The best that I could find was that there was an 8 person limit and that it wasn't as straightforward as Discord at all.

It's still nice to see them trying and hopefully one day it'll be a viable alternative to Discord itself.

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

The best that you could find?

I am personally unconvinced it's not a viable alternative to dsicord already. But yes it will always be improving and it will be good to see how far it continues to improve.

[-] Jamoke@lemmy.themainframe.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Serious question, can you join multiple homeservers yet? Having an account tied to one server is a massive drawback compared to Discord. I tried Cinny earlier and currently use Element with my friends but I don't think that feature exists.

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes matrix account migration across homeservers is possible, though it looks a little annoying so hopefully you'd never need to do it.

I'm not sure what you mean though about being a downside compared to discord. In discord's case, your homeserver is the discord service. In matrix it could be one of any number of servers. But unlike discord, you can talk to those other home server users. So to be clear: a 'discord server' is more like a room in matrix. While your homeserver is akin to the entire discord service. Literally their servers, as in their server farms.

It would be like talking to someone's steam account or facebook messenger directly via discord. It's actually more versatile in this regard, far moreso. Your discord account is locked to discord's walled garden, a matrix account is not locked to any walled garden.

[-] Jamoke@lemmy.themainframe.org 1 points 2 years ago

So if I'm on a self-hosted matrix server I could join rooms in any number of other matrix servers (just like joining communities across Lemmy instances)? That's a game-changer if that's the case. I have no idea how to do that within Element.

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Yes that's the central idea of matrix. Element is just the client interacting with the matrix code, there are likely guides for self hosting Matrix. I don't think it's trivial though, a secure messaging system is a bit heftier than a public facing messaging board, but I am fairly confident people familiar with self hosting could do it.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I don't see the punch line.

[-] MonkeyBusiness@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

It's funny in a meta circle jerk kinda way

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