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G/O Media, an online media company that owns Gizmodo and Kotaku has announced that it will begin a "modest test" of AI content on its sites.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The fact that I can open up ChatGPT right now and say "Write a Kotaku article about why Tetris is racist" and get a 100% believable result out of it should be a sign that they've been replaceable for a while now.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WTF that is a whole load of baloney, it's hilarious. Also a good reminder for us who lean left to remember to be critical when discussing such things too.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Say what you will, I need myself a racially diverse tetris now. We should all aspire to be L shaped block.

It's so hard to even make fun of that without sounding like I'm on the extreme right, but I am CACKLING

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Helldiver_M That reads exactly like a typical dumb shit Kotaku article. No wonder, because it was trained from human data. I don't know what's more shocking, that our News outlets by human is so bad we think a robot wrote it, or if the AI is that good that we think a human wrote it. Both perspectives are frightening.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Video game journalism has been crappy for a long, loooong time. You ever read pre-Ziff Davis EGM or GamePro? It's like a lobotomy in print form.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet, there always has been a good journalism, either very quality reviews describing well the game in question, or very funny articles making fun of a game that is otherwise boring or bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not saying the magazines of the time were totally devoid of good gaming coverage. Video Games and Computer Entertainment was a solid, substantial read... the layout was nothing special, but the writing was pure quality. Kind of helped that they were writing articles for adults and not edgy fourteen year olds, or nine year olds hopped up on sugar.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Agree. And yet again, there was reason why gaming bloggers and YouTubers like TotalBiscuit got so much popular. Gaming Journalism crashed.

I am not disagreeing with you, I grew up on Level and Score personally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yo I loved EGM back in the N64 era and I’m pretty sure that was Ziff Davis. Then again maybe I was lobotomized with a magazine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ziff-Davis EGM was pretty good. Pre Ziff-Davis EGM (the Sendai era, from 1989 to 1997) was not.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

That's hilarious, and about on par with most of the writing on so-called journalism sites these days. Glorious!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That’s so much fluff.

Fun to read but honestly felt like watching an Ancient Aliens episodes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Holy shit it's spot on for the type of outrage baiting I expected. I'm really impressed

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

at least it's nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why is every point marked '1.' lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's the training data. Every list the bot has ever seen has had the number 1 in it. All other numbers come up less than that.

The bot also has no memory of what it wrote before, and no clue what it will write next. It simply guesses what the next word will be based on what the last word was.

Another failure of these bots, they're Pre-Trained. It's the "p" in the name. So anything they generate will be based on the training data, with no changes to the algorithm based on interacting with users. You can "convince" the bot of anything and the second you close that browser window, the bot basically resets to factory defaults.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's trying to use markdown to create a numbered list, in many flavours of markdown that would do it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Believable as in imitates the writing style, sure, but what's the point if it's factually incorrect?

From the article:

The company joins a growing number of media entities experimenting with the technology [...] These trials have already led to a flood of error-laden, plagiarized, and poorly written content due to badly implemented — and, some would argue, inherently unsuited AI models — that still have a strong tendency to make up facts.

Hate on Kotaku all you want but they don't make shit up as often as AI does

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be fair, Kotaku does sometimes make shit up. Like the Persona 5-Smash crossover lyrics being ableist thing. And they tried to double down on it for awhile if I recall right.

And yes, ChatGPT makes shit up all the time. More often then Kotaku.

I know in a post gamergate world, we need to be diligent for things like dog-whistles. And hating on Kotaku is arguably in dog-whistle territory. I guess in my opinion Kotaku is so bad, that we should be able to safely mock the crap out of them. I'm even more happy to mock any chuds that want to keep non cis-white-males out of games. They just weren't relevant for this occasion.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Hate on Kotaku all you want but they don't make shit up as often as AI does

Oh they do. Take the whole kerfuffle around Kingdom Come.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have found that one of the more effective ways to use ChatGPT for writing is to not just tell it "write me an article about..." But to give it a list of all the facts and basic arguments you want to include in the article and then tell it to use those. Takes more work to gather those bits of information ahead of time, but not a lot more work - you could basically do a bunch of Googling and copy and paste bits and pieces of what you find to use as your starting data.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's an amazing prompt. 😂

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not much was lost. Both Gizmodo and Kotaku content have already been indistinguishable from poorly generated AI content for ages now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree, it's been pretty bad for a few years now at least.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shilling corpo propaganda made most "journalism" feel like it was AI generated corporate PR

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ironically nothing seems to rile up some gamers more than when game journalists try to be more than a corporate PR relay. God forbid anyone talks about labor issues, social issues, or worse, actually publishes a critique of a popular triple-A game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who is down voting this comment?

Labour issue in game development got ur panties all bunched up?!

I guess some really ain't got to work for money ehh?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who is down voting this comment?

chatterbox and comedy. You can see them in the activity tab of the post.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ahh... Didn't even know about that feature. Ty for sharing!

@chatterbox and @comedy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol, @comedy downvoted me too in frustration. He forgot that he isn't on reddit anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I am still hoping to hear what theor issue here is tbh..

Otherwise it feels like basic sinping for some legal persons

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So weird and obsessive to not only care about who might disagree with your comment, but to then seek to notify them demanding an explanation. Like I have to justify why I disagree or dont find any particular comment useful?

I diagreed because I am a gamer and I DO care about labor conditions in the industry. While I don't work in it, I have many friends that do and they identify as gamers and do care. I dont like making gamers a monolith, nor do I agree with the assertion that the reason they were disliked was due to them cocering labor issues. Thats why I downvoted the comment. I dont expect you or the others to agree with me, obviously, but the idea that you'd try to get people to justify it is fucking weird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So weird and obsessive to not only care about who might disagree with your comment, but to then seek to notify them demanding an explanation.

Well on this forum the votes are public. Deal with it. And if you can't then stop downvoting.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's because Gamers are morons.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Good thing I spent five years in college sharpening my writing skills, only to be obsoleted by an uppity toaster. That'll make paying my student loans so much easier.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well at least you paid for boomers to have mcmansions and 401ks

Thank you for your service!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

boomer thanking a younger person for anything

Found the fake boomer /hj

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And the people who benefited from having their loans forgiven by the taxpayers just convinced the Supreme Court that your loans don't count and that you should be on the hook for them!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Somebody's going to need to tell the AIs what to write about and evaluate their output.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone with enough money to make corporate decisions is always the worst person at making corporate decisions

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The Peter principle in action.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dislike Kotaku, but I still think that cheering this decision on is a bad thing, because if this works then more and more companies with better journalism will probably be replaced.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Came here to say exactly this. I don’t like Kotaku, and think that the AI is probably doing a better job. But this does not bode well for other publications.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Streamlining garbage-in-garbage-out for the mainstream is apparently worth trillions.

Why would anyone bother visiting Kotaku if they could just ask an AI to make shit up directly? Management just not thinking beyond the immediate present.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ever since I saw an AI play megaman I would rather have AI review videogames because they will eventually learn how to play competently.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

HAHAHAHAHAHHA

It couldn't have happened to a nicer platform

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm inclined to care but this is Kotaku we're talking about

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