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[+] Xer0@lemmy.ml 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] renzev@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (16 children) Try Mac OS next lol. "Here, hold down alt, smack your left ass cheek, and tap dance around your computer to run this unsigned executable". It really feels like they're deliberately violating the principle of discoverability to stop your from doing things that they don't like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 years ago (7 children) They already just prevent you from doing things that they don't like. Try installing an older app, it just gives the error that the app is too old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago That's ageist. We should sue them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) Technically, Android does that, too, but the limit on that is a few years. If I'm not mistaken, the lowest version of Android that Google will allow a user to install through the Play Store is Android 12 (released in September 2020). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's for manually installing apps, I believe. But developers on Google Play have to follow this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but 99% (give or take) of Android users won't know or care how to install 3rd party apps. So most people would only care about the Google Play Store limitation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] nolight@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago After 3 years of using MacOS as a main OS, I am more than convinced it was indeed the intention. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) You can't even cut/paste in Mac OS without using your mouse and modifier keys. Like, seriously? Also, it's 2024 and they still don't have window snapping. Like what the fuck, Tim Apple? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) You can tho? You can use arrow keys to move around the text, and hold down control to move by entire words in most apps. CMD + C to copy and CMD + V to paste (CMD is what they call the super key). But yeah, they're trying to push a pointer-centric design that nobody really wants instead of putting the keyboard first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (3 children) That's copy/paste. There is no cut command in Mac AFAIK. There's only the move command, which requires an additional modifier when pasting. If there's a key combo for that modifier, then I would like to know what it is. The only way I know how to do it is with the context menu from right clicking and the modifier key. But still, why do they do it differently than every other operating system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Because they are smarter than you, and know what you need better than you do, duh! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Cut is just Command + X. You can swap in Command for most of the windows shortcuts that use control. Why didn't Apple just use the Control button for Control things? That I do not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago You could also just right click though /shrug permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago I'm a Windows user, but my church uses a Mac to run its projection and video recording. I'll admit it works pretty well for what we typically need it to do, but it recently took me like five minutes to figure out how to crop a picture because you apparently can't do that by simply opening the file and clicking the crop icon. Mac's filesystem is an absolute mess, too. This might just be my own inexperience, but I've saved things like PowerPoints and videos in order to upload them, and then I'll go to the website to upload them, and I won't be able to find them because they're not in a specific folder or something. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago I picked up an iPhone several years ago, I think a 6 or 6s? Anyways, I tried to use it for a while, because I work in IT and sometimes need to support people on their iPhone, and being an Android person, I had no idea what I was doing. I could not stand it. Everything took so much more effort. I never got rid of my android, I just tried to use the iPhone whenever possible to familiarize myself with the apple way of doing things. I hated some of the layouts, I missed the back button... Even something as simple as copy/paste just seemed a lot more cumbersome for no good reason. I learned a lot about it and where options and such were located (which is what I primarily needed) then I simply used it a bit less and less all the time until I finally stopped using it entirely. I have no idea where it is at this point, but I'm sure it still works and I'm sure I would still hate it. I've wanted to retry the experiment with a newer device like the X or 11 or something, but anytime I consider it, I just think back on my experience and unless I can pick up a relatively modern iPhone for next to nothing, I'm pretty uninterested in trying again. I know iOS has had a lot of updates in the past few years since I used one and maybe it sucks less? But I'm not willing to sacrifice my sanity to figure it out. I don't mean to hate on iOS or iPhones. I certainly don't like them, but if that's what works for you, then go ham. I find it cumbersome and restrictive, and you're free to disagree and use whatever you like; don't let me stop you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Right? I gotta use an iPad at work now and where the FUCK is the back button!?!? I'm so tired of mashing the home button. It's cool AF that my stylus will put text specifically where I write it though, and it translates my cursive! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] renzev@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (16 children) Try Mac OS next lol. "Here, hold down alt, smack your left ass cheek, and tap dance around your computer to run this unsigned executable". It really feels like they're deliberately violating the principle of discoverability to stop your from doing things that they don't like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 years ago (7 children) They already just prevent you from doing things that they don't like. Try installing an older app, it just gives the error that the app is too old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago That's ageist. We should sue them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) Technically, Android does that, too, but the limit on that is a few years. If I'm not mistaken, the lowest version of Android that Google will allow a user to install through the Play Store is Android 12 (released in September 2020). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's for manually installing apps, I believe. But developers on Google Play have to follow this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but 99% (give or take) of Android users won't know or care how to install 3rd party apps. So most people would only care about the Google Play Store limitation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] nolight@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago After 3 years of using MacOS as a main OS, I am more than convinced it was indeed the intention. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) You can't even cut/paste in Mac OS without using your mouse and modifier keys. Like, seriously? Also, it's 2024 and they still don't have window snapping. Like what the fuck, Tim Apple? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) You can tho? You can use arrow keys to move around the text, and hold down control to move by entire words in most apps. CMD + C to copy and CMD + V to paste (CMD is what they call the super key). But yeah, they're trying to push a pointer-centric design that nobody really wants instead of putting the keyboard first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (3 children) That's copy/paste. There is no cut command in Mac AFAIK. There's only the move command, which requires an additional modifier when pasting. If there's a key combo for that modifier, then I would like to know what it is. The only way I know how to do it is with the context menu from right clicking and the modifier key. But still, why do they do it differently than every other operating system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Because they are smarter than you, and know what you need better than you do, duh! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Cut is just Command + X. You can swap in Command for most of the windows shortcuts that use control. Why didn't Apple just use the Control button for Control things? That I do not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago You could also just right click though /shrug permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago I'm a Windows user, but my church uses a Mac to run its projection and video recording. I'll admit it works pretty well for what we typically need it to do, but it recently took me like five minutes to figure out how to crop a picture because you apparently can't do that by simply opening the file and clicking the crop icon. Mac's filesystem is an absolute mess, too. This might just be my own inexperience, but I've saved things like PowerPoints and videos in order to upload them, and then I'll go to the website to upload them, and I won't be able to find them because they're not in a specific folder or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 years ago (7 children) They already just prevent you from doing things that they don't like. Try installing an older app, it just gives the error that the app is too old. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago That's ageist. We should sue them. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) Technically, Android does that, too, but the limit on that is a few years. If I'm not mistaken, the lowest version of Android that Google will allow a user to install through the Play Store is Android 12 (released in September 2020). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's for manually installing apps, I believe. But developers on Google Play have to follow this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but 99% (give or take) of Android users won't know or care how to install 3rd party apps. So most people would only care about the Google Play Store limitation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago That's ageist. We should sue them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) Technically, Android does that, too, but the limit on that is a few years. If I'm not mistaken, the lowest version of Android that Google will allow a user to install through the Play Store is Android 12 (released in September 2020). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's for manually installing apps, I believe. But developers on Google Play have to follow this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but 99% (give or take) of Android users won't know or care how to install 3rd party apps. So most people would only care about the Google Play Store limitation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's for manually installing apps, I believe. But developers on Google Play have to follow this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but 99% (give or take) of Android users won't know or care how to install 3rd party apps. So most people would only care about the Google Play Store limitation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) That's for manually installing apps, I believe. But developers on Google Play have to follow this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but 99% (give or take) of Android users won't know or care how to install 3rd party apps. So most people would only care about the Google Play Store limitation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but 99% (give or take) of Android users won't know or care how to install 3rd party apps. So most people would only care about the Google Play Store limitation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yes, but 99% (give or take) of Android users won't know or care how to install 3rd party apps. So most people would only care about the Google Play Store limitation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] nolight@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago After 3 years of using MacOS as a main OS, I am more than convinced it was indeed the intention. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) You can't even cut/paste in Mac OS without using your mouse and modifier keys. Like, seriously? Also, it's 2024 and they still don't have window snapping. Like what the fuck, Tim Apple? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) You can tho? You can use arrow keys to move around the text, and hold down control to move by entire words in most apps. CMD + C to copy and CMD + V to paste (CMD is what they call the super key). But yeah, they're trying to push a pointer-centric design that nobody really wants instead of putting the keyboard first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (3 children) That's copy/paste. There is no cut command in Mac AFAIK. There's only the move command, which requires an additional modifier when pasting. If there's a key combo for that modifier, then I would like to know what it is. The only way I know how to do it is with the context menu from right clicking and the modifier key. But still, why do they do it differently than every other operating system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Because they are smarter than you, and know what you need better than you do, duh! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Cut is just Command + X. You can swap in Command for most of the windows shortcuts that use control. Why didn't Apple just use the Control button for Control things? That I do not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago You could also just right click though /shrug permalink fedilink source parent
[–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) You can tho? You can use arrow keys to move around the text, and hold down control to move by entire words in most apps. CMD + C to copy and CMD + V to paste (CMD is what they call the super key). But yeah, they're trying to push a pointer-centric design that nobody really wants instead of putting the keyboard first. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (3 children) That's copy/paste. There is no cut command in Mac AFAIK. There's only the move command, which requires an additional modifier when pasting. If there's a key combo for that modifier, then I would like to know what it is. The only way I know how to do it is with the context menu from right clicking and the modifier key. But still, why do they do it differently than every other operating system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Because they are smarter than you, and know what you need better than you do, duh! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Cut is just Command + X. You can swap in Command for most of the windows shortcuts that use control. Why didn't Apple just use the Control button for Control things? That I do not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago You could also just right click though /shrug permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (3 children) That's copy/paste. There is no cut command in Mac AFAIK. There's only the move command, which requires an additional modifier when pasting. If there's a key combo for that modifier, then I would like to know what it is. The only way I know how to do it is with the context menu from right clicking and the modifier key. But still, why do they do it differently than every other operating system? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Because they are smarter than you, and know what you need better than you do, duh! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Cut is just Command + X. You can swap in Command for most of the windows shortcuts that use control. Why didn't Apple just use the Control button for Control things? That I do not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago You could also just right click though /shrug permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Because they are smarter than you, and know what you need better than you do, duh! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Cut is just Command + X. You can swap in Command for most of the windows shortcuts that use control. Why didn't Apple just use the Control button for Control things? That I do not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago You could also just right click though /shrug permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago You could also just right click though /shrug permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago I'm a Windows user, but my church uses a Mac to run its projection and video recording. I'll admit it works pretty well for what we typically need it to do, but it recently took me like five minutes to figure out how to crop a picture because you apparently can't do that by simply opening the file and clicking the crop icon. Mac's filesystem is an absolute mess, too. This might just be my own inexperience, but I've saved things like PowerPoints and videos in order to upload them, and then I'll go to the website to upload them, and I won't be able to find them because they're not in a specific folder or something. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago I picked up an iPhone several years ago, I think a 6 or 6s? Anyways, I tried to use it for a while, because I work in IT and sometimes need to support people on their iPhone, and being an Android person, I had no idea what I was doing. I could not stand it. Everything took so much more effort. I never got rid of my android, I just tried to use the iPhone whenever possible to familiarize myself with the apple way of doing things. I hated some of the layouts, I missed the back button... Even something as simple as copy/paste just seemed a lot more cumbersome for no good reason. I learned a lot about it and where options and such were located (which is what I primarily needed) then I simply used it a bit less and less all the time until I finally stopped using it entirely. I have no idea where it is at this point, but I'm sure it still works and I'm sure I would still hate it. I've wanted to retry the experiment with a newer device like the X or 11 or something, but anytime I consider it, I just think back on my experience and unless I can pick up a relatively modern iPhone for next to nothing, I'm pretty uninterested in trying again. I know iOS has had a lot of updates in the past few years since I used one and maybe it sucks less? But I'm not willing to sacrifice my sanity to figure it out. I don't mean to hate on iOS or iPhones. I certainly don't like them, but if that's what works for you, then go ham. I find it cumbersome and restrictive, and you're free to disagree and use whatever you like; don't let me stop you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Right? I gotta use an iPad at work now and where the FUCK is the back button!?!? I'm so tired of mashing the home button. It's cool AF that my stylus will put text specifically where I write it though, and it translates my cursive! permalink fedilink source parent