▲ -5 ▼ There needs to be a global login button for Mastodon/Lemmy (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by orientalsniper@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 35 comments fedilink hide all child comments Like two text fields, with the server/instance field autofilling: username @ server
[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) No thanks. We're an instance focused on the queer and gender diverse community. Not a convenient generic login proxy for the entire Fediverse. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No we aren't. We are an instance focused on autonomy and anti-censorship. (Yes this is somewhat sarcastic, as I'm trying to point out that you are posting on a federated forum. Your instance focused is irrelevant to everyone but your own users) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Your instance focused is irrelevant to everyone but your own users Well yes, that's rather the point. I run this instance for my community. I have no interest in turning my instance in to a generic login proxy for "free speech" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 0 points 3 years ago I guess I'm not understanding what your idea of a federated login looks like from your server perspective. I think that might be the fundamental problem as that idea is different for different people. What I would envision a federated login looks like in the case of AP: I are directed to a post on your forum. I don't have a login to your forum and my home server has not subscribed to that forum from your server yet. I login at your server which redirects to my home instance, subscribes to the given forum and pulls in the post in question, automatically. That seems like some extra steps now that I actually give the mechanics a thought and I think this can be resolved by an extra button on a post that does the above. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orientalsniper@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) A global login wouldn't break a defedaration, it would simply spit out some error such as "Your credentials are invalid, your home instance is not federated with this instance." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well yes, but most of the instances we federate with aren't queer or gender diverse. And the reason we pay for the costs of our instance out of our own pockets is because we are interested in fostering and developing our community of folk who are queer and gender diverse permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orientalsniper@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's great and all, but it still wouldn't disrupt any of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago It wouldn't disrupt it, but it would mean that I would see an influx of users that I have to pay for, that have no interest or involvement with the community that I'm trying to nurture permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) No we aren't. We are an instance focused on autonomy and anti-censorship. (Yes this is somewhat sarcastic, as I'm trying to point out that you are posting on a federated forum. Your instance focused is irrelevant to everyone but your own users) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Your instance focused is irrelevant to everyone but your own users Well yes, that's rather the point. I run this instance for my community. I have no interest in turning my instance in to a generic login proxy for "free speech" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 0 points 3 years ago I guess I'm not understanding what your idea of a federated login looks like from your server perspective. I think that might be the fundamental problem as that idea is different for different people. What I would envision a federated login looks like in the case of AP: I are directed to a post on your forum. I don't have a login to your forum and my home server has not subscribed to that forum from your server yet. I login at your server which redirects to my home instance, subscribes to the given forum and pulls in the post in question, automatically. That seems like some extra steps now that I actually give the mechanics a thought and I think this can be resolved by an extra button on a post that does the above. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Your instance focused is irrelevant to everyone but your own users Well yes, that's rather the point. I run this instance for my community. I have no interest in turning my instance in to a generic login proxy for "free speech" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 0 points 3 years ago I guess I'm not understanding what your idea of a federated login looks like from your server perspective. I think that might be the fundamental problem as that idea is different for different people. What I would envision a federated login looks like in the case of AP: I are directed to a post on your forum. I don't have a login to your forum and my home server has not subscribed to that forum from your server yet. I login at your server which redirects to my home instance, subscribes to the given forum and pulls in the post in question, automatically. That seems like some extra steps now that I actually give the mechanics a thought and I think this can be resolved by an extra button on a post that does the above. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 0 points 3 years ago I guess I'm not understanding what your idea of a federated login looks like from your server perspective. I think that might be the fundamental problem as that idea is different for different people. What I would envision a federated login looks like in the case of AP: I are directed to a post on your forum. I don't have a login to your forum and my home server has not subscribed to that forum from your server yet. I login at your server which redirects to my home instance, subscribes to the given forum and pulls in the post in question, automatically. That seems like some extra steps now that I actually give the mechanics a thought and I think this can be resolved by an extra button on a post that does the above. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orientalsniper@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) A global login wouldn't break a defedaration, it would simply spit out some error such as "Your credentials are invalid, your home instance is not federated with this instance." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well yes, but most of the instances we federate with aren't queer or gender diverse. And the reason we pay for the costs of our instance out of our own pockets is because we are interested in fostering and developing our community of folk who are queer and gender diverse permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orientalsniper@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's great and all, but it still wouldn't disrupt any of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago It wouldn't disrupt it, but it would mean that I would see an influx of users that I have to pay for, that have no interest or involvement with the community that I'm trying to nurture permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Well yes, but most of the instances we federate with aren't queer or gender diverse. And the reason we pay for the costs of our instance out of our own pockets is because we are interested in fostering and developing our community of folk who are queer and gender diverse permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orientalsniper@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's great and all, but it still wouldn't disrupt any of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago It wouldn't disrupt it, but it would mean that I would see an influx of users that I have to pay for, that have no interest or involvement with the community that I'm trying to nurture permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orientalsniper@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's great and all, but it still wouldn't disrupt any of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago It wouldn't disrupt it, but it would mean that I would see an influx of users that I have to pay for, that have no interest or involvement with the community that I'm trying to nurture permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 years ago It wouldn't disrupt it, but it would mean that I would see an influx of users that I have to pay for, that have no interest or involvement with the community that I'm trying to nurture permalink fedilink source parent