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Sixteen people forged documents and claimed to be "duly elected and qualified electors" for the state of Michigan, Attorney General Dana Nessel said.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Unless Trump actually contacted them and told them what to do, I don’t see that much flipping to be done here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Well it would be surprising if he personally contracted any of them, but it pretty obvious it was managed centrally to a pretty significant degree, and that is likely to roll uphill close enough to be uncomfortable for him.

Unfortunately you usually have to do something in order to do something illegal, and he's gotten out of things over the years mainly through plausible deniability. Plenty of people did overly illegal things here, just a matter of how close to it he got in this case

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Seems deranged to do this without some kind of promise of a pardon or similar.

…At the same time, it’s not hard to believe that there are 16+ deranged republicans risking their freedom by conspiring in a basement to own the libs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It doesn't have to be trump personally. it could be any one of his cronies like MTG, Boebert, Gym Jordan, Kevin McCarthy, Rudy, Mike Pillow, etc. They just need to turn on whoever they were in contact with in order to come up with the plan in the first place. Then follow the chain to the top.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Did Trump personally tell them what to do? Probably not. Did they do this on their own without his administration's involvement? Doubtful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump? No, he's not smart enough. But it is odd that this scheme would have happened in more than one state completely organically. So either 1) a whole bunch of people were all equally stupid at the same time (and let's face it, when talking about Trump's supporters that's a fair given) and/or 2) there was some level of coordination, most likely involving John Eastman and other, more scheming individuals in Trump's cabal (Miller? Bannon?).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My bet’s Bannon. I think he’s talked about it on his top-rated podcast, though I’ve never listened.