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New NYT lore just dropped, USSR started WW2
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The US based "history channel" has a big WW2 documentary that says Stalin was buddy buddy with Hitler until Hitler attacked the USSR and Stalin was taken by surprise. I believed it for years until I de-liberalled myself and learned real fucking history. The west is fucked.
I guess when USSR and Reich supported opposite sides during Spanish civil war it was a clear sign of friendship or something.
That was just some socialist infighting. (just like the camps, or something IDK)
I don't recall this ever being mentioned in educational materials. I do recall my history schoolbook talking about Molotov-Ribbentrop "pact", but never anything else. Not the Spanish civil war and who supported who there, not the many agreements between European countries and Nazis, nothing. IIRC it mentioned a "joint parade" between USSR and Nazis in Poland, though
TFW even my somewhat lib history teacher told us that Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was to buy time to prepare for war.
That was the common understanding in the 2000s as far as I can recall.
YO! I know exactly what you tare talking about. I saw that same shit at some point (I think around the time it first aired), and it had honestly painted my understanding of the start of WWII badly. Especially because back then I didn't care about learning anything about the Soviet front as they were also always spoken about as being basically the same as the Nazis. WWII is always about the US "saving the day" when talking just about the war and not the genocide elements. I even have cringe memories of parroting the "Stalin and Hitler were best buds, and that Stalin basically only ever really trusted Hitler which fucked him up when Hitler turned on him" shit. Though it is personal cringe as I never got any push back or ever corrected, thankfully I don't think I really focused on it enough to bring up with many people. I am just glad that even one other person remembered seeing that shit to verify it being a real line of "educational material."
This was back in the earlier days of the history channel I think. Before they got into the crazier shit. Back when it was the "WWII and tanks" channel.