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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (6 children)

My uber driver said that global warming is actually true but have literally nothing about human influence.

Some years ago these persons were saying that global warming was a hoax, now that only the human influence is a hoax.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I always hated that argument from people.

Even if they're right — which we all know they are not — it wouldn't matter. Climate change is going to devastate human life if we do nothing. If, somehow, the source of the warming wasn't human-caused, we'd still need to find a way to counteract it. It's not our fault doesn't prevent it from being our problem.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"it has nothing to do with human influence"

"Ok, then let's prepare for the inevitable, strengthen infrastructure, prepare for mass migrations, improve our crops to sustain bigger variances in weather, evacuate people from flood danger zones, ensure our supply chain doesn't collapse, fund poor countries so they can survive better, etc. You know, prepare for the crisis"

:|

>:(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I had a guy tell me once that maybe climate change is just the Earth getting closer to the sun, and we should send an astronaut up to the Hubble telescope so they can look through it and measure the distance to the sun....

I've known this guy for over a decade, and it's not that he's stupid, he's just completely ignorant about climate change and doesn't put in any effort to learn about science.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ahhh, yes. The conservative backpedalling.

It's not happening. It's happening but it's all cyclical. It's not cyclical this time but it's not our fault. It's our fault but global warming is good ackshually. Global warming is bad but there's nothing we can do about it. We could do something about it but it's too expensive/late. Maybe it's not too expensive but THE CHINESE!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

In stage one we say nothing is going to happen.

Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.

In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do.

Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

but global warming is good ackshually.

My dad unironically used this argument when we were talking about this last week. Some people have their heads so far up their own ass, it's just sad.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Had a argument with a person on YouTube, he thought that increased CO2 in the atmosphere would be beneficial. It would help plants grow better!

Also that humans was not behind it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not a problem! And if it is, it's not our fault. And even if it is, it was completely necessary.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Basically all right wing policies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You got it wrong, it's:

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

(no not all conservatives/climate change deniers are narcissists but the overlap is interesting)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a lot of money pushing this idea. I live in a certain US state where an organization has been paying to have billboards up that push this idea for years now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The most terrible thing is that it's a half truth. While yes plants grow better with increased CO2, the downsides are so destructive it is not at all beneficial.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

oo Interesting video! I'll send it to them ^^ thanks <3

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I heard that on talk radio once too. 20 years ago!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

BuT CO2 iS pLaNt FoOd! Why do you hate plants!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

The sad thing is we're supposed to be in a ice age. The plant is further away from the sun about the same plane since the last ice age.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's crazy how often I find this fitting: The Four Stage Strategy. At least it gives me a smile now and then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If you're based in the UK, then all you can do is smile at the shit we have to deal with government-wise. If you don't laugh, you'll go mad, kinda thing.

That 'Four Stage Strategy' is horribly, horribly apt even today.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've found a clever way to counter those folks is to say, "you might be right, and as the apex species it's our moral obligation to seize control and protect the natural order of things for as long as we are able to slow the coming of hell on earth. Just like our right to shoot guns. Yee haw."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just like our right to shoot guns Sadly or happily this one doesn't work in my country.