▲ 115 ▼ New NYT lore just dropped, USSR started WW2 (lemmygrad.ml) submitted 3 years ago by yogthos@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml 61 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 3 years ago (1 child) Broke: Germany started WW2 with the invasion of Poland Woke: Japan started WW2 with the invasion of China Ascended: Soviet Union started WW2 by invading Poland 2 weeks after the Germans permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't like to refer to military initiatives of the USSR to be invasions. I think it cedes ground to capitalists and falsely equivocates. The correct term is liberate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Its still an invasion by definition. What the intentions of the assaulting army are don't matter in regard to whether a military undertaking is an invasion or not. We can't just pick and choose good sounding names and assume that changes reality, or that by adhering to a definition that that somehow cedes ground. Invasion: A military offensive in which large numbers of combatants of one geopolitical entity enter territory owned by another such entity, generally with the objective of either: conquering; liberating or re-establishing control or authority over a territory, forcing the partition of a country; altering the established government or gaining concessions from said government; or a combination thereof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) I understand that. Yet most liberals will falsely equivocate regardless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago I understand, but we reach a point where that is simply not our problem anymore. We cannot try and make every little detail adhere to their worldview. If they make the equivalence, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wollff@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago True Communists will correctly equivocate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't like to refer to military initiatives of the USSR to be invasions. I think it cedes ground to capitalists and falsely equivocates. The correct term is liberate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Its still an invasion by definition. What the intentions of the assaulting army are don't matter in regard to whether a military undertaking is an invasion or not. We can't just pick and choose good sounding names and assume that changes reality, or that by adhering to a definition that that somehow cedes ground. Invasion: A military offensive in which large numbers of combatants of one geopolitical entity enter territory owned by another such entity, generally with the objective of either: conquering; liberating or re-establishing control or authority over a territory, forcing the partition of a country; altering the established government or gaining concessions from said government; or a combination thereof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) I understand that. Yet most liberals will falsely equivocate regardless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago I understand, but we reach a point where that is simply not our problem anymore. We cannot try and make every little detail adhere to their worldview. If they make the equivalence, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wollff@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago True Communists will correctly equivocate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Its still an invasion by definition. What the intentions of the assaulting army are don't matter in regard to whether a military undertaking is an invasion or not. We can't just pick and choose good sounding names and assume that changes reality, or that by adhering to a definition that that somehow cedes ground. Invasion: A military offensive in which large numbers of combatants of one geopolitical entity enter territory owned by another such entity, generally with the objective of either: conquering; liberating or re-establishing control or authority over a territory, forcing the partition of a country; altering the established government or gaining concessions from said government; or a combination thereof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) I understand that. Yet most liberals will falsely equivocate regardless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago I understand, but we reach a point where that is simply not our problem anymore. We cannot try and make every little detail adhere to their worldview. If they make the equivalence, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wollff@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago True Communists will correctly equivocate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 years ago (2 children) I understand that. Yet most liberals will falsely equivocate regardless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago I understand, but we reach a point where that is simply not our problem anymore. We cannot try and make every little detail adhere to their worldview. If they make the equivalence, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wollff@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago True Communists will correctly equivocate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago I understand, but we reach a point where that is simply not our problem anymore. We cannot try and make every little detail adhere to their worldview. If they make the equivalence, then so be it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wollff@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago True Communists will correctly equivocate. permalink fedilink source parent
