▲ 551 ▼ Spanish activists vandalize superyacht in Ibiza believed to belong to billionaire Walmart heiress (localnews8.com) submitted 3 years ago by zombuey@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 70 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) True. If you’re going to risk being jailed, might as well go out killing a CEO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galloog1@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's definitely not more ethical and that suggestion is abhorrent by any ethical framework. Murder is wrong except in self defense. If you start justifying murder based on political actions, you enable it in response and that typically leads to actual fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Murder is wrong except in self defense. What counts as self defense then? When somebody has a knife at your throat? What about people planning to put a knife to your throat? What about people creating plans to dump toxic waste into your neighborhood? At some point a line must be drawn. So why shouldn't that line include the rich who dump astronomical loads of emissions, poisoning our air and water, and otherwise killing the planet? There isn't calls to eat the rich simply because of a difference in political opinion. There is a lot more to it than that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galloog1@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You unfortunately justify violence against yourself in that case because you escalated. All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context. Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society and I'm very against punishment without a trial by peers. You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context. The first 3 are, the last one is not. https://policy-practice.oxfam.org/resources/carbon-billionaires-the-investment-emissions-of-the-worlds-richest-people-621446/ In addition to the above, there is also the fact that roughly 8 million people a year are dying from climate change. Climate change that is heavily driven by billionaires. What about the self defense of those 8 million that die every year? Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society This statement has some very "Let them eat cake" energy. You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically. I haven't murdered anyone. Nor have I based any of my argument on something false. So this is not true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] galloog1@lemmy.world -1 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's definitely not more ethical and that suggestion is abhorrent by any ethical framework. Murder is wrong except in self defense. If you start justifying murder based on political actions, you enable it in response and that typically leads to actual fascism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Murder is wrong except in self defense. What counts as self defense then? When somebody has a knife at your throat? What about people planning to put a knife to your throat? What about people creating plans to dump toxic waste into your neighborhood? At some point a line must be drawn. So why shouldn't that line include the rich who dump astronomical loads of emissions, poisoning our air and water, and otherwise killing the planet? There isn't calls to eat the rich simply because of a difference in political opinion. There is a lot more to it than that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galloog1@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You unfortunately justify violence against yourself in that case because you escalated. All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context. Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society and I'm very against punishment without a trial by peers. You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context. The first 3 are, the last one is not. https://policy-practice.oxfam.org/resources/carbon-billionaires-the-investment-emissions-of-the-worlds-richest-people-621446/ In addition to the above, there is also the fact that roughly 8 million people a year are dying from climate change. Climate change that is heavily driven by billionaires. What about the self defense of those 8 million that die every year? Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society This statement has some very "Let them eat cake" energy. You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically. I haven't murdered anyone. Nor have I based any of my argument on something false. So this is not true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) Murder is wrong except in self defense. What counts as self defense then? When somebody has a knife at your throat? What about people planning to put a knife to your throat? What about people creating plans to dump toxic waste into your neighborhood? At some point a line must be drawn. So why shouldn't that line include the rich who dump astronomical loads of emissions, poisoning our air and water, and otherwise killing the planet? There isn't calls to eat the rich simply because of a difference in political opinion. There is a lot more to it than that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] galloog1@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You unfortunately justify violence against yourself in that case because you escalated. All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context. Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society and I'm very against punishment without a trial by peers. You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context. The first 3 are, the last one is not. https://policy-practice.oxfam.org/resources/carbon-billionaires-the-investment-emissions-of-the-worlds-richest-people-621446/ In addition to the above, there is also the fact that roughly 8 million people a year are dying from climate change. Climate change that is heavily driven by billionaires. What about the self defense of those 8 million that die every year? Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society This statement has some very "Let them eat cake" energy. You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically. I haven't murdered anyone. Nor have I based any of my argument on something false. So this is not true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) You unfortunately justify violence against yourself in that case because you escalated. All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context. Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society and I'm very against punishment without a trial by peers. You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context. The first 3 are, the last one is not. https://policy-practice.oxfam.org/resources/carbon-billionaires-the-investment-emissions-of-the-worlds-richest-people-621446/ In addition to the above, there is also the fact that roughly 8 million people a year are dying from climate change. Climate change that is heavily driven by billionaires. What about the self defense of those 8 million that die every year? Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society This statement has some very "Let them eat cake" energy. You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically. I haven't murdered anyone. Nor have I based any of my argument on something false. So this is not true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context. The first 3 are, the last one is not. https://policy-practice.oxfam.org/resources/carbon-billionaires-the-investment-emissions-of-the-worlds-richest-people-621446/ In addition to the above, there is also the fact that roughly 8 million people a year are dying from climate change. Climate change that is heavily driven by billionaires. What about the self defense of those 8 million that die every year? Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society This statement has some very "Let them eat cake" energy. You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically. I haven't murdered anyone. Nor have I based any of my argument on something false. So this is not true. permalink fedilink source parent