▲ 88 ▼ US lawmakers vote 50-0 to force sale of TikTok despite angry calls from users (arstechnica.com) submitted 2 years ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip [M] to c/technology@lemmy.zip 85 comments fedilink hide all child comments Lawmaker: TikTok must "sever relationship with the Chinese Communist Party."
[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) They already have control over Xitter and Facebook/Instagram. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) America already controls Tiktok's data via Oracle server farms in Virginia, so that automatically doesn't track; make it make sense. Why is there a need to ban them that DOESN'T boil down to the usual anglo pearlclutching trying to start new Yellow Perils and Red Scares? And why haven't Twitter, Meta, Instagram, or Trust Social been banned yet? Make. It. Make. Sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm from the EU, where there's laws in place for some industries to put EU user data exclusively on servers that are in the EU. I'm assuming that the US doesn't have that kind of law applying to TikTok, and that the US servers are an infrastructure decision by Tiktok’s owner company. If I'm right, then that's your answer. If I'm wrong then they really don't need to ban them. For the record, please keep in mind that I'm not defending any party here. I'm very aware of post cold war yellow/red scare stories, I just don't see how this inevitably has to be the consequence of one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I just don’t see how this inevitably has to be the consequence of one. Then you're clearly not paying attention; but that's to be expected of a Five Eyes vassal ig. You can say you're 'not defending any party' all you like, the very geopolitical viewpoint you've been propagandized into does that for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) WTF are you calling me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) They're being a bit antisocial and I don't defend that, but they're referencing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes , an intelligence agreement among the anglosphere, and then saying you're from a vassal state of that alliance (really just a vassal of the US). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So “ig” means “inhabitant” somehow? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means "i guess" you absolute boomer jfc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you're calling me a vassal, you dork. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a member of a vassal state, it makes sense to thereby call the citizens vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm only ever really antisocial against anglo bullshit anymore and this thread is full of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago* Socialists should seek to be pro-social in all contexts. Being bitter won't help you do anything but preach to the choir. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) America already controls Tiktok's data via Oracle server farms in Virginia, so that automatically doesn't track; make it make sense. Why is there a need to ban them that DOESN'T boil down to the usual anglo pearlclutching trying to start new Yellow Perils and Red Scares? And why haven't Twitter, Meta, Instagram, or Trust Social been banned yet? Make. It. Make. Sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm from the EU, where there's laws in place for some industries to put EU user data exclusively on servers that are in the EU. I'm assuming that the US doesn't have that kind of law applying to TikTok, and that the US servers are an infrastructure decision by Tiktok’s owner company. If I'm right, then that's your answer. If I'm wrong then they really don't need to ban them. For the record, please keep in mind that I'm not defending any party here. I'm very aware of post cold war yellow/red scare stories, I just don't see how this inevitably has to be the consequence of one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I just don’t see how this inevitably has to be the consequence of one. Then you're clearly not paying attention; but that's to be expected of a Five Eyes vassal ig. You can say you're 'not defending any party' all you like, the very geopolitical viewpoint you've been propagandized into does that for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) WTF are you calling me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) They're being a bit antisocial and I don't defend that, but they're referencing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes , an intelligence agreement among the anglosphere, and then saying you're from a vassal state of that alliance (really just a vassal of the US). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So “ig” means “inhabitant” somehow? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means "i guess" you absolute boomer jfc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you're calling me a vassal, you dork. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a member of a vassal state, it makes sense to thereby call the citizens vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm only ever really antisocial against anglo bullshit anymore and this thread is full of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago* Socialists should seek to be pro-social in all contexts. Being bitter won't help you do anything but preach to the choir. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm from the EU, where there's laws in place for some industries to put EU user data exclusively on servers that are in the EU. I'm assuming that the US doesn't have that kind of law applying to TikTok, and that the US servers are an infrastructure decision by Tiktok’s owner company. If I'm right, then that's your answer. If I'm wrong then they really don't need to ban them. For the record, please keep in mind that I'm not defending any party here. I'm very aware of post cold war yellow/red scare stories, I just don't see how this inevitably has to be the consequence of one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I just don’t see how this inevitably has to be the consequence of one. Then you're clearly not paying attention; but that's to be expected of a Five Eyes vassal ig. You can say you're 'not defending any party' all you like, the very geopolitical viewpoint you've been propagandized into does that for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) WTF are you calling me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) They're being a bit antisocial and I don't defend that, but they're referencing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes , an intelligence agreement among the anglosphere, and then saying you're from a vassal state of that alliance (really just a vassal of the US). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So “ig” means “inhabitant” somehow? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means "i guess" you absolute boomer jfc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you're calling me a vassal, you dork. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a member of a vassal state, it makes sense to thereby call the citizens vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm only ever really antisocial against anglo bullshit anymore and this thread is full of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago* Socialists should seek to be pro-social in all contexts. Being bitter won't help you do anything but preach to the choir. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I just don’t see how this inevitably has to be the consequence of one. Then you're clearly not paying attention; but that's to be expected of a Five Eyes vassal ig. You can say you're 'not defending any party' all you like, the very geopolitical viewpoint you've been propagandized into does that for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) WTF are you calling me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) They're being a bit antisocial and I don't defend that, but they're referencing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes , an intelligence agreement among the anglosphere, and then saying you're from a vassal state of that alliance (really just a vassal of the US). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So “ig” means “inhabitant” somehow? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means "i guess" you absolute boomer jfc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you're calling me a vassal, you dork. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a member of a vassal state, it makes sense to thereby call the citizens vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm only ever really antisocial against anglo bullshit anymore and this thread is full of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago* Socialists should seek to be pro-social in all contexts. Being bitter won't help you do anything but preach to the choir. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) WTF are you calling me? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) They're being a bit antisocial and I don't defend that, but they're referencing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes , an intelligence agreement among the anglosphere, and then saying you're from a vassal state of that alliance (really just a vassal of the US). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So “ig” means “inhabitant” somehow? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means "i guess" you absolute boomer jfc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you're calling me a vassal, you dork. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a member of a vassal state, it makes sense to thereby call the citizens vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm only ever really antisocial against anglo bullshit anymore and this thread is full of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago* Socialists should seek to be pro-social in all contexts. Being bitter won't help you do anything but preach to the choir. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children) They're being a bit antisocial and I don't defend that, but they're referencing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes , an intelligence agreement among the anglosphere, and then saying you're from a vassal state of that alliance (really just a vassal of the US). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So “ig” means “inhabitant” somehow? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means "i guess" you absolute boomer jfc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you're calling me a vassal, you dork. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a member of a vassal state, it makes sense to thereby call the citizens vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm only ever really antisocial against anglo bullshit anymore and this thread is full of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago* Socialists should seek to be pro-social in all contexts. Being bitter won't help you do anything but preach to the choir. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) So “ig” means “inhabitant” somehow? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means "i guess" you absolute boomer jfc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you're calling me a vassal, you dork. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a member of a vassal state, it makes sense to thereby call the citizens vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) It means "i guess" you absolute boomer jfc permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you're calling me a vassal, you dork. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a member of a vassal state, it makes sense to thereby call the citizens vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So you're calling me a vassal, you dork. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a member of a vassal state, it makes sense to thereby call the citizens vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a member of a vassal state, it makes sense to thereby call the citizens vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Ah yes, as we all know, family, friends, and poverty doesn't exist. So everyone is either complicit or will immediately move to whatever perfect country you think exists. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net -1 points 2 years ago Vassalage is a term describing social position, not a moralism. Your indignation at this has no bearing on the fact and you sound just like the morons who say white privilege doesn't exist because poor white people exist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I'm only ever really antisocial against anglo bullshit anymore and this thread is full of it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago* Socialists should seek to be pro-social in all contexts. Being bitter won't help you do anything but preach to the choir. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 point 2 years ago* Socialists should seek to be pro-social in all contexts. Being bitter won't help you do anything but preach to the choir. permalink fedilink source parent