▲ 944 ▼ Chat Apps (kbin.run) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by tsugu@slrpnk.net to c/memes@lemmy.ml 320 comments fedilink hide all child comments I use the apps my friends use but it gets tiring to keep up with so many.
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 26 points 2 years ago (2 children) Matrix and bridges permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only if you tell your contacts about it, and explain to them what a bridge does permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shrippen@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Take Signal to Matrix for example. They use different encryption protocols, which means a message sent from one end has to be decrypted, and then re-encrypted with the protocol of the recipient before they can actually receive it. So basically, your encryption is not very e2e anymore, and the fact that someone can set this up, effectively giving encryption keys to a third party without their contacts being able to do anything about it is pretty fucked. Oh, and different TOS between different services also come into play. So if you do this, at least tell your contacts about it, so they can make an informed decision about whether or not that's okay for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hjpoijnerflkjn@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Just self host the bridges. I mean if you trust your phone more than your server, this won't help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Do whatever you want, but again, make sure your contacts can make an informed decision about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stegosaur5491@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I bet none of my contacts made an informed decision about which chat app they are using. I don't think that this really bothers one of them. Most of them do not know, what the difference between Insta-pms and Whatsapp even is, as far as security and privacy are concerned. And from my point of view I don't know it detailed enough too. Making an informed decision about a closed source software and as a non technical person is not as easy as you may think. At least from my point of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're hitting the nail directly on the head. Not knowing what's going on being a bad thing is precisely my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Meh. For many people, software research is an impossibly high barrier for entry because of years of FANG brain rot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago If I own the bridge, nobody but me is accessing the message. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 point 2 years ago Yup, this is what I do. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago XMPP & Gateways permalink fedilink source parent
[–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Only if you tell your contacts about it, and explain to them what a bridge does permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shrippen@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Take Signal to Matrix for example. They use different encryption protocols, which means a message sent from one end has to be decrypted, and then re-encrypted with the protocol of the recipient before they can actually receive it. So basically, your encryption is not very e2e anymore, and the fact that someone can set this up, effectively giving encryption keys to a third party without their contacts being able to do anything about it is pretty fucked. Oh, and different TOS between different services also come into play. So if you do this, at least tell your contacts about it, so they can make an informed decision about whether or not that's okay for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hjpoijnerflkjn@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Just self host the bridges. I mean if you trust your phone more than your server, this won't help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Do whatever you want, but again, make sure your contacts can make an informed decision about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stegosaur5491@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I bet none of my contacts made an informed decision about which chat app they are using. I don't think that this really bothers one of them. Most of them do not know, what the difference between Insta-pms and Whatsapp even is, as far as security and privacy are concerned. And from my point of view I don't know it detailed enough too. Making an informed decision about a closed source software and as a non technical person is not as easy as you may think. At least from my point of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're hitting the nail directly on the head. Not knowing what's going on being a bad thing is precisely my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Meh. For many people, software research is an impossibly high barrier for entry because of years of FANG brain rot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago If I own the bridge, nobody but me is accessing the message. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 point 2 years ago Yup, this is what I do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shrippen@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Take Signal to Matrix for example. They use different encryption protocols, which means a message sent from one end has to be decrypted, and then re-encrypted with the protocol of the recipient before they can actually receive it. So basically, your encryption is not very e2e anymore, and the fact that someone can set this up, effectively giving encryption keys to a third party without their contacts being able to do anything about it is pretty fucked. Oh, and different TOS between different services also come into play. So if you do this, at least tell your contacts about it, so they can make an informed decision about whether or not that's okay for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hjpoijnerflkjn@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Just self host the bridges. I mean if you trust your phone more than your server, this won't help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Do whatever you want, but again, make sure your contacts can make an informed decision about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stegosaur5491@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I bet none of my contacts made an informed decision about which chat app they are using. I don't think that this really bothers one of them. Most of them do not know, what the difference between Insta-pms and Whatsapp even is, as far as security and privacy are concerned. And from my point of view I don't know it detailed enough too. Making an informed decision about a closed source software and as a non technical person is not as easy as you may think. At least from my point of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're hitting the nail directly on the head. Not knowing what's going on being a bad thing is precisely my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Meh. For many people, software research is an impossibly high barrier for entry because of years of FANG brain rot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago If I own the bridge, nobody but me is accessing the message. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 point 2 years ago Yup, this is what I do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Take Signal to Matrix for example. They use different encryption protocols, which means a message sent from one end has to be decrypted, and then re-encrypted with the protocol of the recipient before they can actually receive it. So basically, your encryption is not very e2e anymore, and the fact that someone can set this up, effectively giving encryption keys to a third party without their contacts being able to do anything about it is pretty fucked. Oh, and different TOS between different services also come into play. So if you do this, at least tell your contacts about it, so they can make an informed decision about whether or not that's okay for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hjpoijnerflkjn@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Just self host the bridges. I mean if you trust your phone more than your server, this won't help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Do whatever you want, but again, make sure your contacts can make an informed decision about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stegosaur5491@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I bet none of my contacts made an informed decision about which chat app they are using. I don't think that this really bothers one of them. Most of them do not know, what the difference between Insta-pms and Whatsapp even is, as far as security and privacy are concerned. And from my point of view I don't know it detailed enough too. Making an informed decision about a closed source software and as a non technical person is not as easy as you may think. At least from my point of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're hitting the nail directly on the head. Not knowing what's going on being a bad thing is precisely my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Meh. For many people, software research is an impossibly high barrier for entry because of years of FANG brain rot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago If I own the bridge, nobody but me is accessing the message. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 point 2 years ago Yup, this is what I do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hjpoijnerflkjn@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (2 children) Just self host the bridges. I mean if you trust your phone more than your server, this won't help. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Do whatever you want, but again, make sure your contacts can make an informed decision about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stegosaur5491@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I bet none of my contacts made an informed decision about which chat app they are using. I don't think that this really bothers one of them. Most of them do not know, what the difference between Insta-pms and Whatsapp even is, as far as security and privacy are concerned. And from my point of view I don't know it detailed enough too. Making an informed decision about a closed source software and as a non technical person is not as easy as you may think. At least from my point of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're hitting the nail directly on the head. Not knowing what's going on being a bad thing is precisely my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Meh. For many people, software research is an impossibly high barrier for entry because of years of FANG brain rot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago If I own the bridge, nobody but me is accessing the message. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 point 2 years ago Yup, this is what I do. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children) Do whatever you want, but again, make sure your contacts can make an informed decision about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stegosaur5491@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I bet none of my contacts made an informed decision about which chat app they are using. I don't think that this really bothers one of them. Most of them do not know, what the difference between Insta-pms and Whatsapp even is, as far as security and privacy are concerned. And from my point of view I don't know it detailed enough too. Making an informed decision about a closed source software and as a non technical person is not as easy as you may think. At least from my point of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're hitting the nail directly on the head. Not knowing what's going on being a bad thing is precisely my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Meh. For many people, software research is an impossibly high barrier for entry because of years of FANG brain rot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago If I own the bridge, nobody but me is accessing the message. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stegosaur5491@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I bet none of my contacts made an informed decision about which chat app they are using. I don't think that this really bothers one of them. Most of them do not know, what the difference between Insta-pms and Whatsapp even is, as far as security and privacy are concerned. And from my point of view I don't know it detailed enough too. Making an informed decision about a closed source software and as a non technical person is not as easy as you may think. At least from my point of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're hitting the nail directly on the head. Not knowing what's going on being a bad thing is precisely my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Meh. For many people, software research is an impossibly high barrier for entry because of years of FANG brain rot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] miss_brainfarts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You're hitting the nail directly on the head. Not knowing what's going on being a bad thing is precisely my whole point permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] owen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Meh. For many people, software research is an impossibly high barrier for entry because of years of FANG brain rot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] owen@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago Meh. For many people, software research is an impossibly high barrier for entry because of years of FANG brain rot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago If I own the bridge, nobody but me is accessing the message. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 point 2 years ago Yup, this is what I do. permalink fedilink source parent