▲ 1321 ▼ Please don't use Discord for FOSS projects (drewdevault.com) submitted 2 years ago by starman@programming.dev to c/opensource@lemmy.ml 402 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (13 children) Great, use Matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I've used matrix. I am still using matrix. Just not for anything with a significant community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) NixOS uses it, and it has the biggest repo out of any distro, so I'd consider it a significant community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Great. Which means NixOS has enough volunteers to handle that part. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (9 children) Servers & clients use too many resources. Because of this, most have centralized around Matrix.org which kind defeats the purpose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Servers & clients use too many resources. Didn't XMPP solve that in, like, 1999? (Really, what is with devs and nu-protocols these days? Back in my days you could run a webhost on a potato) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago The did, but Matrix is coming to reinvent that while but by wasting resources trying to duplicate the state of everything at massive storage costs & without the extensibility because JSON. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (6 children) There's a Mozilla home server as well, so federation is working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) That server is under the Matrix.org fleet. It’s like saying Edge isn’t Chrome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) The server itself doesn't matter, you can migrate it to AWS or your own physical server if you oenn the domain permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) The server does matter when it comes to who is collecting all of the metadata, data, attachments. …And having that all that data centralized around a single entity is a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) In this case that would be Mozilla, not the host permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Matrix.org hosts Mozilla’s Matrix server. Further, the way all data is synced to all servers means if someone with a Matrix.org ID joins your room (which is most users), all data is synced to the home server. Almost all of the data is in Matrix.org’s possession & with the servers being as expensive as they are to run, more orgs shutdown when popular causing users to flock to the mother instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hosting the server doesn't mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn't mean they can access it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I've used matrix. I am still using matrix. Just not for anything with a significant community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) NixOS uses it, and it has the biggest repo out of any distro, so I'd consider it a significant community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Great. Which means NixOS has enough volunteers to handle that part. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) NixOS uses it, and it has the biggest repo out of any distro, so I'd consider it a significant community permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Great. Which means NixOS has enough volunteers to handle that part. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago Great. Which means NixOS has enough volunteers to handle that part. I don't. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (9 children) Servers & clients use too many resources. Because of this, most have centralized around Matrix.org which kind defeats the purpose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Servers & clients use too many resources. Didn't XMPP solve that in, like, 1999? (Really, what is with devs and nu-protocols these days? Back in my days you could run a webhost on a potato) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago The did, but Matrix is coming to reinvent that while but by wasting resources trying to duplicate the state of everything at massive storage costs & without the extensibility because JSON. permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (6 children) There's a Mozilla home server as well, so federation is working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) That server is under the Matrix.org fleet. It’s like saying Edge isn’t Chrome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) The server itself doesn't matter, you can migrate it to AWS or your own physical server if you oenn the domain permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) The server does matter when it comes to who is collecting all of the metadata, data, attachments. …And having that all that data centralized around a single entity is a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) In this case that would be Mozilla, not the host permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Matrix.org hosts Mozilla’s Matrix server. Further, the way all data is synced to all servers means if someone with a Matrix.org ID joins your room (which is most users), all data is synced to the home server. Almost all of the data is in Matrix.org’s possession & with the servers being as expensive as they are to run, more orgs shutdown when popular causing users to flock to the mother instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hosting the server doesn't mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn't mean they can access it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Servers & clients use too many resources. Didn't XMPP solve that in, like, 1999? (Really, what is with devs and nu-protocols these days? Back in my days you could run a webhost on a potato) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago The did, but Matrix is coming to reinvent that while but by wasting resources trying to duplicate the state of everything at massive storage costs & without the extensibility because JSON. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago The did, but Matrix is coming to reinvent that while but by wasting resources trying to duplicate the state of everything at massive storage costs & without the extensibility because JSON. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (6 children) There's a Mozilla home server as well, so federation is working. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) That server is under the Matrix.org fleet. It’s like saying Edge isn’t Chrome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) The server itself doesn't matter, you can migrate it to AWS or your own physical server if you oenn the domain permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) The server does matter when it comes to who is collecting all of the metadata, data, attachments. …And having that all that data centralized around a single entity is a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) In this case that would be Mozilla, not the host permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Matrix.org hosts Mozilla’s Matrix server. Further, the way all data is synced to all servers means if someone with a Matrix.org ID joins your room (which is most users), all data is synced to the home server. Almost all of the data is in Matrix.org’s possession & with the servers being as expensive as they are to run, more orgs shutdown when popular causing users to flock to the mother instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hosting the server doesn't mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn't mean they can access it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (5 children) That server is under the Matrix.org fleet. It’s like saying Edge isn’t Chrome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) The server itself doesn't matter, you can migrate it to AWS or your own physical server if you oenn the domain permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) The server does matter when it comes to who is collecting all of the metadata, data, attachments. …And having that all that data centralized around a single entity is a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) In this case that would be Mozilla, not the host permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Matrix.org hosts Mozilla’s Matrix server. Further, the way all data is synced to all servers means if someone with a Matrix.org ID joins your room (which is most users), all data is synced to the home server. Almost all of the data is in Matrix.org’s possession & with the servers being as expensive as they are to run, more orgs shutdown when popular causing users to flock to the mother instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hosting the server doesn't mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn't mean they can access it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) The server itself doesn't matter, you can migrate it to AWS or your own physical server if you oenn the domain permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) The server does matter when it comes to who is collecting all of the metadata, data, attachments. …And having that all that data centralized around a single entity is a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) In this case that would be Mozilla, not the host permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Matrix.org hosts Mozilla’s Matrix server. Further, the way all data is synced to all servers means if someone with a Matrix.org ID joins your room (which is most users), all data is synced to the home server. Almost all of the data is in Matrix.org’s possession & with the servers being as expensive as they are to run, more orgs shutdown when popular causing users to flock to the mother instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hosting the server doesn't mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn't mean they can access it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) The server does matter when it comes to who is collecting all of the metadata, data, attachments. …And having that all that data centralized around a single entity is a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) In this case that would be Mozilla, not the host permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Matrix.org hosts Mozilla’s Matrix server. Further, the way all data is synced to all servers means if someone with a Matrix.org ID joins your room (which is most users), all data is synced to the home server. Almost all of the data is in Matrix.org’s possession & with the servers being as expensive as they are to run, more orgs shutdown when popular causing users to flock to the mother instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hosting the server doesn't mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn't mean they can access it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) In this case that would be Mozilla, not the host permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Matrix.org hosts Mozilla’s Matrix server. Further, the way all data is synced to all servers means if someone with a Matrix.org ID joins your room (which is most users), all data is synced to the home server. Almost all of the data is in Matrix.org’s possession & with the servers being as expensive as they are to run, more orgs shutdown when popular causing users to flock to the mother instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hosting the server doesn't mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn't mean they can access it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Matrix.org hosts Mozilla’s Matrix server. Further, the way all data is synced to all servers means if someone with a Matrix.org ID joins your room (which is most users), all data is synced to the home server. Almost all of the data is in Matrix.org’s possession & with the servers being as expensive as they are to run, more orgs shutdown when popular causing users to flock to the mother instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hosting the server doesn't mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn't mean they can access it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Hosting the server doesn't mean you get to access the data. My server is hosted on Oracle, but that doesn't mean they can access it permalink fedilink source parent