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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Signal, Telegram, why use SMS or RCS?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

The majority of the people I text are non-nerds. To them, it just sounds like “I’m special, so if you want to text me, I need you to download this app you’ve never heard of instead of the feature your phone comes with, that you use for everyone else, and that works with Siri.”

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

No one should have to.

It's ridiculous how far we've allowed this vendor lock in shit to get. Apple and Google should both be hit over the head repeatedly until they open the messaging up.

SMS had many issues but the ease with which one person could reach another was a genuine benefit for communication. And we've let these companies take us away from that. It's absolute bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

In Europe, SMS has been dead for at least a decade. It was so strange for me to find out other parts of the world still use it to text each other

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't txt anyone, Signal for about 80%, 20% Telegram. I do receive a few SMS for 2FA , that's it. My mother and sister use Signal on their iphones and tablets to message me as an example. I use Android. I'm in Australia though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is zero chance I'm going to be able to convince my grandparents to switch to signal for the handful of times we text each other a year.

My mom didn't even start using SMS until like 2010.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

My 82yr old mother uses Signal on her iPad and iPhone to message me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

my *little* brother and his fiancee refuse to use anything but Facebook messenger or sms/MMS

they're both android users

I've tried to explain it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What bugs me the most about this sort of thing is that around 15 years ago, it wouldn't have been nearly as much of a problem.

There was a short window when everyone was spread out over AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo's Messenger, and Facebook all on PC before smartphones took off where you could use a third party program on your PC to log in to each of your messaging accounts and talk with everyone in one place. I remember using Trillian and Pidgin.

Then as smart phones took off, all the companies quadrupled down on the walled garden idea, most chat systems died off in favor of Facebook and text, and now that we have a new diaspora of chat systems we're worse off than the late aughts. Technology was supposed to make shit easier and more interoperable, not worse and more walled off you corpo fucks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

A little off topic

We used pidgin for short while at work. I got a ticket that this lady was getting out of disk errors. It was a new laptop so I was confused. I couldn't find the culprit right away and ran windirstat on it. Pigin had created a 200+GB log file in her profile. I couldn't believe it. We stopped using it shortly after that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Then as smart phones took off, all the companies quadrupled down on the walled garden idea

Yahoo and MSN had interop before smartphones existed. AIM and Google Talk (Jabber) as well.

When smart phones took off, Facebook Messenger actually had Jabber support (which also gave it interop with AIM and Google Talk).

The consolidation and walled gardens unfortunately came back later.