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The video about libertarian charter cities as Effective Altruism akhully is up! (awful.systems)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The one promised in this post several months ago.

@collectivist spotted the finished product was out:

When he posted the finished video on youtube yesterday, there were some quite critical comments on youtube, the EA forum and even lesswrong. Unfortunately they got little to no upvotes while the video itself got enough karma to still be on the frontpage on both forums.

YouTube; LessWrong; EA Forum

the video is everything you'd expect. The power of classical liberalism and technology segues into uwu libertarianism. I made it about three minutes with a great deal of skipping.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I’m a few minutes into the video. If this really is a libertarian screed, then the fact that they choose Singapore as their opening example is wild.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Loving the bioshock/rapture comp in the yt comments.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Finished the vid (at 2x speed). uwu libertarian is right. There's no analysis or insight on any of the examples. A lot of details are being glossed over. If the world was 90% people like the vid creator, we'd all be living in company towns.

Also... is this an example of horseshoe theory?? Aren't charter cities just soviets/workers councils????

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Soviets were in theory democratic councils but were in practice ruled top-down (except in the very beginning, according to Emma Goldman in her book "My two years in Russia"). So I don't think there is much similarity there.

On the other hand, charter cities are according to Wikipedia essentially areas where a more advanced economy "helps" a third world country by "temporarily" taking over governance to develope the area. In other words: a colony.

And in the historical part of their video I missed the other parts of the industrial revolution. You know the taking over other countries to get cheap raw materials, cheap labour and captive markets. Surely just an oversight that they forgot to mention how colonialism has worked before and its role in why poor countries are poor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Thanks for the history lesson (serious).

I mostly just wanted to make a bad horseshoe theory reference.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

This is another example of the dangers of wealth inequality. A lot of EAs tried to start a youtube channel (e.g.), but the only one that could get funded was this one, the one promoting bitcoins and charter cities. Now this is the largest EA channel, attracting more of those types and signalling clearly that if you want to succeed in EA you gotta please the capitalist funders.