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[–] HobbitFoot 4 points 3 years ago

But what other federated entity allows for nomadic identities? And how would it work?

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

This is not a simple problem to solve and it exists nowhere online. The fediverse however affords at least way more control than reddit or any forum where they can do the same and you have no options whatsoever

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[–] code_is_speech@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 3 years ago

You've sold me on nostr as a protocol, and the importance of nomadic identities more generally. Thing is, I don't and have never used twitter, or any simililar platform, since I'm not really interested in that model of content consumption. (User/follower based)

I'm much more interested in group/community based models, like lemmy/reddit, and conceptually even futaba/chan style imageboards where users can create their own boards (though I have yet to see one that isn't a cesspit).

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

I checked nosr. It's very misguided. It's anti-spam strategy is wishful thinking. I wish them best of luck, but my belief is that it will crash and burn due to trying to fix something unfixable.

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[–] milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

It’s anti-spam strategy is wishful thinking.

huh? relays can choose to block content.

my belief is that it will crash and burn due to trying to fix something unfixable.

abuse of power is fixable through nomadic identities and signatures. your lemmy instance will "crash and burn" when you decide to pull the plug. its funny to watch people trying "more of the same", naively hoping for the best with every iteration.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

relays can choose to block content.

This is so naive I don't even know where to start. But it's ok, I don't need to convince you. Reality will do it for me anyway.

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[–] milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

please explain. me (and the nostr project) would love to hear your criticism.

also, relays are free to implement further anti-spam measures: captcha, email, phone, payment, ...

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

No. I literally don't have time to deconstruct this for you now. I suggest you open a dedicated thread for this discussion on one of the communities speaking about the fediverse and ask for people's opinions. I'm sure you'll get a lot of people to debate this with.

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[–] milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

cheap excuse. there is nothing to "deconstruct" here. you can implement exactly the same anti-spam measures in a nostr relay.

i guess your problem is: you dont like competition. when i can host all the content from "your" relay, but with better moderation, then users will prefer my relay.

i see this stupid mindset all over the "warez scene". "my release", "my content", "my profit"... for fucks sake, you people just as stupid as the people who write copyright laws... the only question is: stupid or evil? scriptkiddie or CIA?

now you can ban me to prove my point : D

edit: also, you seem to have a problem with free speech. looking at your modlog, where you ban people for "Misogyny" or "transphobia" or "condescending". literally, this is worse than reddit.

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[–] snowone@fixate.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

@milahu @db0 my issue with nostr is it seems to be another private "network" while activity pub has issues it at least lets me talk on mastodon/lemmy/kbin and see posts from all those services.

and I can freely move my account from one instance to another one if needed than migrate back home even.

and for privacy in small groups you can even implement your own peer to peer encryption so DMs remain private between trusted sources.

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[–] snowone@fixate.social 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

@milahu I have looked at the bridges and the use still tends to create errors for the encryption I have always supported that users should be taking the initiative and using GnuPG encryption for sensitive messages on all platforms so your not relying on any one else's use of data.

So I know it started with crypto being the push for this one can you tell me if it is still heavy into cryptobro hype?

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[–] iSharted@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago

I like the idea of nostr, but is there a fork around to avoid the stream of cringe bitcoin talk? I think this would be ideal for something like high speed discord, more than a twitter replacement.

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[–] oceane@eldritch.cafe 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

My main concern with nostr is that it's developed by a man who's abused me for 8 years without even knowing I existed, so discussing about specs or clients is missing the bigger picture (basically tech bikeshedding).

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[–] milahu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

My main concern with nostr is that it’s developed by a man who’s abused me for 8 years without even knowing I existed

aah, more of that emo rhetoric. go file a lawsuit.

the beauty of nostr is: anyone can run a relay, so you and your emo friends can make a "safe space" relay, where all "hate speech" is censored.

tech bikeshedding

comparing two protocols is no bikeshedding.

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[–] oceane@eldritch.cafe -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

@milahu You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about, so you're resorting to personal insults. Your behavior is
completely coherent and thus, not surprising or disappointing in any way. You're just an asshole.

I've repeated year after year, and been exposed to a domestic predator because of Twitter. I'm still depressed and I
still can't manage my money and my time properly because of Twitter. I've stayed in the closet for another decade
because of Twitter. You don't even know the beginning of what you're talking about. You don't even know what's a
dispositive of power, or even the face of the most famous French philosopher having dedicated his life to write
about power.

You're just an ignorant.

Yes, it's tech bikeshedding _because_ you're restricting the conversation to tech and protocols. As far as I know,
there's a 50/50 chance you don't know what an affordance is, and you're going to lecture us about how easy it is to
run a relay. This isn't the topic at hand. The topic at hand is that you wouldn't trust Dorsey if you gave a shit,
and I assume we do, so shut up.

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[–] oceane@eldritch.cafe -1 points 3 years ago

You clearly have no idea of what you're talking about, so you're resorting to personal insults. Your behavior is completely coherent and thus, not surprising or disappointing in any way. You're just an asshole.

I've repeated year after year, and been exposed to a domestic predator because of Twitter. I'm still depressed and I still can't manage my money and my time properly because of Twitter. I've stayed in the closet for another decade because of Twitter. You don't even know the beginning of what you're talking about. You don't even know what's a dispositive of power, or even the face of the most famous French philosopher having dedicated his life to write about power.

You're just an ignorant.

Yes, it's tech bikeshedding _because_ you're restricting the conversation to tech and protocols. As far as I know, there's a 50/50 chance you don't know what an affordance is, and you're going to lecture us about how easy it is to run a relay. This isn't the topic at hand. The topic at hand is that you wouldn't trust Dorsey if you gave a shit, and I assume we do, so shut up.