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[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Still the best president we've had since Obama

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The bar wasn't set very high... I mean, practically anyone normal would've been better than Trump.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

RandPaul: ❌

RuPaul: ✅

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

He probably smells better too.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He's the best president since Jimmy Carter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

The guy who sold weapons to Indonesia so they could commit genocide?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Obama is the only decent president I can name since wwii

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like someone's family wedding wasn't droned.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know, one thing I haven't been able to find was how prominent the drone program was during the Bush administration. While Obama's admin had more drone strike kills in like 1 year than did the whole of the Bush admin, one also has to question how many of the damned things were flying and launching missile strikes with civvie casualties during the Bush admin. If anyone has info on that, I'd like to read up.

Also, more drone strikes during 45 and 46 each than 44, too. But somehow this always gets glossed over. I don't understand that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was mostly about the prevalence of the technology. Bush was still in the era where we bombed family weddings.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah. Drones allow for more targeted strikes. Drone warfare is scary and all, but is not like more civilians would have been alive today had Obama opted for more traditional strategies.

You can of course say America has no business intervening abroad in the first place. Fair enough, but by the time Obama entered into power the damage was already done. Anyone who thinks this is easy should take another look at Afghanistan.

America has gotten itself in a really shitty position. There's no way of entering the white house and not leave with blood on your hands. But this whole Obama drone narrative is just willfully ignorant.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago

Underrated comment