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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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#First and foremost, let me say that I appreciate you actually engaging in a real discussion on Lemmy!

Why did I make this community? Well, mostly in response to the rest of Lemmy and the way many otherwise interesting discussion threads fall apart into downvoting and groupthink.

I don’t like people making baseless accusations. I defend people on all sides when people are wrong about their opposition. I hate it when people think they know what others think and project incorrect (and often evil) bullshit on each other. It’s important to be correct with solid reasoning and conclusions, not just one or the other.

I hate people being wilfully wrong because their group fetishizes a certain angle of the truth instead of the boring reality of the situation.

Ideas are important and I don’t feel we can get out of the current shitty slump we’re in with political discourse unless we clearly speak about and discuss the world.

So let's talk like people. What do you want to talk about?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I only spew venom at those who attack me first. And when I'm attacked, I always give all the hate I can to the person in question.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Someone disagreeing with you isn't attacking you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

EXACTLY. That's the point I've been making for decades now. But people won't just simply disagree. They throw in nasty, invective disparaging words and insinuate that you or I must be morons because our views differ from theirs.

When someone calls me names just because I've expressed a view they don't like, you better believe I'm going to rain down on them like a ton of bricks. You can disagree with someone in a civilized manner -- but call me names and you're going damn well live to regret it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I agree, but if someone insults you on c/politics you can just report the comment and we will remove it, and after enough strike ban them. Rather than you going from 1 to 100 and getting yourself banned.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I mentioned it elsewhere, but it seems like over the last 20 years or so the internet has become a lot more intolerant of even discussing how someone could approach an opposing viewpoint. This is how Echo Chambers were built and came about in the first place and I feel it's made a lot of people much more thin-skinned.

I hope this community will fix all that at least in this one tiny corner.