▲ 320 ▼ The company behind Opera browser also runs a loan shark operation (www.spacebar.news) submitted 2 years ago by bitofhope@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems 60 comments fedilink hide all child comments Also a bunch of somewhat less heinous cringe shit.
[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (8 children) Vivaldi has been great the whole time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (6 children) Except that it uses chromium which contributes to the Google dominance of web standards permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) But do they have to follow what Google is doing? Can't they have full control over their own chromium version? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Not really, chromium is mostly maintained by Google. They could fork it but that wouldn't solve what I'm concerned about here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Does this mean Vivaldi devs have to constantly deal with what Google devs are doing? I was under the impression it's a platform of their own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes, not only is Vivaldi "just" patches on the Google chromium code, they are implicitly limited in what they can patch because they need to be able to port their patches to newer versions of Chromium in order to inherit all of the security features and continued compatibility with the chrome web store. The design and features of Vivaldi are necessarily heavily dictated by Google's decisions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've been using Vivaldi's features (like the mouse gestures and a few other things) since its release. Would it be hard to migrate it all to Firefox or is there a better alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Possible, yes. Hard? Probably also yes. There's a lot of addons for Firefox but I don't use gestures so I have no idea. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MrCookieRespect@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (6 children) Except that it uses chromium which contributes to the Google dominance of web standards permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) But do they have to follow what Google is doing? Can't they have full control over their own chromium version? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Not really, chromium is mostly maintained by Google. They could fork it but that wouldn't solve what I'm concerned about here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Does this mean Vivaldi devs have to constantly deal with what Google devs are doing? I was under the impression it's a platform of their own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes, not only is Vivaldi "just" patches on the Google chromium code, they are implicitly limited in what they can patch because they need to be able to port their patches to newer versions of Chromium in order to inherit all of the security features and continued compatibility with the chrome web store. The design and features of Vivaldi are necessarily heavily dictated by Google's decisions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've been using Vivaldi's features (like the mouse gestures and a few other things) since its release. Would it be hard to migrate it all to Firefox or is there a better alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Possible, yes. Hard? Probably also yes. There's a lot of addons for Firefox but I don't use gestures so I have no idea. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) But do they have to follow what Google is doing? Can't they have full control over their own chromium version? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Not really, chromium is mostly maintained by Google. They could fork it but that wouldn't solve what I'm concerned about here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Does this mean Vivaldi devs have to constantly deal with what Google devs are doing? I was under the impression it's a platform of their own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes, not only is Vivaldi "just" patches on the Google chromium code, they are implicitly limited in what they can patch because they need to be able to port their patches to newer versions of Chromium in order to inherit all of the security features and continued compatibility with the chrome web store. The design and features of Vivaldi are necessarily heavily dictated by Google's decisions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've been using Vivaldi's features (like the mouse gestures and a few other things) since its release. Would it be hard to migrate it all to Firefox or is there a better alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Possible, yes. Hard? Probably also yes. There's a lot of addons for Firefox but I don't use gestures so I have no idea. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children) Not really, chromium is mostly maintained by Google. They could fork it but that wouldn't solve what I'm concerned about here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Does this mean Vivaldi devs have to constantly deal with what Google devs are doing? I was under the impression it's a platform of their own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes, not only is Vivaldi "just" patches on the Google chromium code, they are implicitly limited in what they can patch because they need to be able to port their patches to newer versions of Chromium in order to inherit all of the security features and continued compatibility with the chrome web store. The design and features of Vivaldi are necessarily heavily dictated by Google's decisions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've been using Vivaldi's features (like the mouse gestures and a few other things) since its release. Would it be hard to migrate it all to Firefox or is there a better alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Possible, yes. Hard? Probably also yes. There's a lot of addons for Firefox but I don't use gestures so I have no idea. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Does this mean Vivaldi devs have to constantly deal with what Google devs are doing? I was under the impression it's a platform of their own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes, not only is Vivaldi "just" patches on the Google chromium code, they are implicitly limited in what they can patch because they need to be able to port their patches to newer versions of Chromium in order to inherit all of the security features and continued compatibility with the chrome web store. The design and features of Vivaldi are necessarily heavily dictated by Google's decisions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've been using Vivaldi's features (like the mouse gestures and a few other things) since its release. Would it be hard to migrate it all to Firefox or is there a better alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Possible, yes. Hard? Probably also yes. There's a lot of addons for Firefox but I don't use gestures so I have no idea. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yes, not only is Vivaldi "just" patches on the Google chromium code, they are implicitly limited in what they can patch because they need to be able to port their patches to newer versions of Chromium in order to inherit all of the security features and continued compatibility with the chrome web store. The design and features of Vivaldi are necessarily heavily dictated by Google's decisions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've been using Vivaldi's features (like the mouse gestures and a few other things) since its release. Would it be hard to migrate it all to Firefox or is there a better alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Possible, yes. Hard? Probably also yes. There's a lot of addons for Firefox but I don't use gestures so I have no idea. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I've been using Vivaldi's features (like the mouse gestures and a few other things) since its release. Would it be hard to migrate it all to Firefox or is there a better alternative? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] earthquake@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Possible, yes. Hard? Probably also yes. There's a lot of addons for Firefox but I don't use gestures so I have no idea. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago Possible, yes. Hard? Probably also yes. There's a lot of addons for Firefox but I don't use gestures so I have no idea. permalink fedilink source parent