▲ 995 ▼ Trump must pay E. Jean Carroll over $83 million in defamation damages, jury rules (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 2 years ago by Riccosuave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 145 comments fedilink hide all child comments Former President Donald Trump must pay writer E. Jean Carroll over $83 million in damages for repeatedly defaming her, a jury found Friday. The nine-person jury began deliberations in federal court in New York at 1:40 p.m. ET and reached a verdict in just under three hours.
[+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 95 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world [S] 70 points 2 years ago (2 children) I overshot the damages award in a previous comment I made. I thought it was going to be closer to $150 million, but $83 million is still substantial. Plus there is a strong likelihood E. Jean Carroll and Robbie Kaplan could sue Donald Trump for defamation again for all the things he posted during this trial. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd just love to see this snowball into an avalanche. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world [S] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's already happening. He's probably defaming her on Truth Social right now while OD'ing on McDonald's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) He couldn't shut up if his life depended on being quiet. I hope this drains his pockets until there's nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago* I hope it’s draining Republican Party coffers, which it indirectly seems to be permalink fedilink source parent [–] showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well he a billionaire so $83 million is a drop in the bucket. He’s probably got that much as change in the couch /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DaBPunkt@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) “Well he a billionaire” [citation needed]. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And themselves! If they’re working on contingency they’ve got 8 figures coming their way too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] neidu2@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I present to you the only proof that he's a billionaire: He said so. That's valid, right? Right? Guys? Anybody? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago In the instance of the court setting damages, I’m happy to accept the highest valuation Trump has to offer permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago In late stage capitalism, having a billion and owing three billion means you in effect still have a billion. It's not like with normal people who have to subtract debt from assets and actually pay what we owe. So yeah, he's a billionaire in all ways that affect him and will be until he dies, which can't happen soon enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* 83,000 would be a drop in the bucket. 83 million is more like a water bottle in a bucket. permalink fedilink source parent [–] admiralteal@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Waiting for the SCOTUS to (again) reduce punitive damage limits in order to protect their special boy. Historically, they HATE punitive civil damages and look for cases to cut them back. That's where the current ~4x limit currently exists, which even in the State Farm decision was clearly flagged as toeing the line. Just look at how little actual damage Exxon ever paid for the Valdez spill. Or McDonalds for the hot coffee. These punitive damages always have a habit of just evaporating after the headlines. Leaving the victim little better off than before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telorand@reddthat.com 37 points 2 years ago (1 child) I doubt that will happen. This is round two of defaming her; it's already been established that he raped and defamed her, and it is glaringly obvious that he did it again (even before this verdict). His team will have to first appeal to the New York Court of Appeals, and it's very unlikely that they'll even hear it. SCOTUS isn't likely to do him a favor but virtue of the highest court in NY not hearing it and this being a very obvious case of repeat offense. They suck right now, and they've made some really awful arguments and rulings, but they haven't exactly been a rubber stamp for Trump or Conservatives, either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for the sanity check. I'm not lover of the current Court, but no, they're not partisan (ruling for the GOP or Trump). Been collecting cases to show this. Only been going a week so far: https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-transgender-bathrooms-indiana-35c59c4dbe94668592c96e2a27c8d517 https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-immigration-texas-razor-wire-9daef6bd316211b6633ece718e505187 https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/u-s-supreme-court-wont-take-up-wa-capital-gains-tax-challenge/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* They're going for the big game, next up..... Chevron Doctrine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mercano@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) It’s a civil case, unfortunately, so jail time was never an option. At the time the incident occurred, there was a five year statute of limitations, so Trump has never been charged criminally in the matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world [S] 70 points 2 years ago (2 children) I overshot the damages award in a previous comment I made. I thought it was going to be closer to $150 million, but $83 million is still substantial. Plus there is a strong likelihood E. Jean Carroll and Robbie Kaplan could sue Donald Trump for defamation again for all the things he posted during this trial. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd just love to see this snowball into an avalanche. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world [S] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's already happening. He's probably defaming her on Truth Social right now while OD'ing on McDonald's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) He couldn't shut up if his life depended on being quiet. I hope this drains his pockets until there's nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago* I hope it’s draining Republican Party coffers, which it indirectly seems to be permalink fedilink source parent [–] showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well he a billionaire so $83 million is a drop in the bucket. He’s probably got that much as change in the couch /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DaBPunkt@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) “Well he a billionaire” [citation needed]. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And themselves! If they’re working on contingency they’ve got 8 figures coming their way too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] neidu2@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I present to you the only proof that he's a billionaire: He said so. That's valid, right? Right? Guys? Anybody? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago In the instance of the court setting damages, I’m happy to accept the highest valuation Trump has to offer permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago In late stage capitalism, having a billion and owing three billion means you in effect still have a billion. It's not like with normal people who have to subtract debt from assets and actually pay what we owe. So yeah, he's a billionaire in all ways that affect him and will be until he dies, which can't happen soon enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* 83,000 would be a drop in the bucket. 83 million is more like a water bottle in a bucket. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 32 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd just love to see this snowball into an avalanche. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world [S] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's already happening. He's probably defaming her on Truth Social right now while OD'ing on McDonald's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) He couldn't shut up if his life depended on being quiet. I hope this drains his pockets until there's nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago* I hope it’s draining Republican Party coffers, which it indirectly seems to be permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world [S] 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's already happening. He's probably defaming her on Truth Social right now while OD'ing on McDonald's. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) He couldn't shut up if his life depended on being quiet. I hope this drains his pockets until there's nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago* I hope it’s draining Republican Party coffers, which it indirectly seems to be permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 2 years ago (1 child) He couldn't shut up if his life depended on being quiet. I hope this drains his pockets until there's nothing left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago* I hope it’s draining Republican Party coffers, which it indirectly seems to be permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago* I hope it’s draining Republican Party coffers, which it indirectly seems to be permalink fedilink source parent
[–] showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website 16 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well he a billionaire so $83 million is a drop in the bucket. He’s probably got that much as change in the couch /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DaBPunkt@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) “Well he a billionaire” [citation needed]. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And themselves! If they’re working on contingency they’ve got 8 figures coming their way too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] neidu2@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I present to you the only proof that he's a billionaire: He said so. That's valid, right? Right? Guys? Anybody? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago In the instance of the court setting damages, I’m happy to accept the highest valuation Trump has to offer permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago In late stage capitalism, having a billion and owing three billion means you in effect still have a billion. It's not like with normal people who have to subtract debt from assets and actually pay what we owe. So yeah, he's a billionaire in all ways that affect him and will be until he dies, which can't happen soon enough. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* 83,000 would be a drop in the bucket. 83 million is more like a water bottle in a bucket. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DaBPunkt@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (3 children) “Well he a billionaire” [citation needed]. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And themselves! If they’re working on contingency they’ve got 8 figures coming their way too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] neidu2@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I present to you the only proof that he's a billionaire: He said so. That's valid, right? Right? Guys? Anybody? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago In the instance of the court setting damages, I’m happy to accept the highest valuation Trump has to offer permalink fedilink source parent [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago In late stage capitalism, having a billion and owing three billion means you in effect still have a billion. It's not like with normal people who have to subtract debt from assets and actually pay what we owe. So yeah, he's a billionaire in all ways that affect him and will be until he dies, which can't happen soon enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And themselves! If they’re working on contingency they’ve got 8 figures coming their way too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) And themselves! If they’re working on contingency they’ve got 8 figures coming their way too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I present to you the only proof that he's a billionaire: He said so. That's valid, right? Right? Guys? Anybody? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago In the instance of the court setting damages, I’m happy to accept the highest valuation Trump has to offer permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 years ago In the instance of the court setting damages, I’m happy to accept the highest valuation Trump has to offer permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago In late stage capitalism, having a billion and owing three billion means you in effect still have a billion. It's not like with normal people who have to subtract debt from assets and actually pay what we owe. So yeah, he's a billionaire in all ways that affect him and will be until he dies, which can't happen soon enough. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* 83,000 would be a drop in the bucket. 83 million is more like a water bottle in a bucket. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Waiting for the SCOTUS to (again) reduce punitive damage limits in order to protect their special boy. Historically, they HATE punitive civil damages and look for cases to cut them back. That's where the current ~4x limit currently exists, which even in the State Farm decision was clearly flagged as toeing the line. Just look at how little actual damage Exxon ever paid for the Valdez spill. Or McDonalds for the hot coffee. These punitive damages always have a habit of just evaporating after the headlines. Leaving the victim little better off than before. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telorand@reddthat.com 37 points 2 years ago (1 child) I doubt that will happen. This is round two of defaming her; it's already been established that he raped and defamed her, and it is glaringly obvious that he did it again (even before this verdict). His team will have to first appeal to the New York Court of Appeals, and it's very unlikely that they'll even hear it. SCOTUS isn't likely to do him a favor but virtue of the highest court in NY not hearing it and this being a very obvious case of repeat offense. They suck right now, and they've made some really awful arguments and rulings, but they haven't exactly been a rubber stamp for Trump or Conservatives, either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for the sanity check. I'm not lover of the current Court, but no, they're not partisan (ruling for the GOP or Trump). Been collecting cases to show this. Only been going a week so far: https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-transgender-bathrooms-indiana-35c59c4dbe94668592c96e2a27c8d517 https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-immigration-texas-razor-wire-9daef6bd316211b6633ece718e505187 https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/u-s-supreme-court-wont-take-up-wa-capital-gains-tax-challenge/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* They're going for the big game, next up..... Chevron Doctrine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 37 points 2 years ago (1 child) I doubt that will happen. This is round two of defaming her; it's already been established that he raped and defamed her, and it is glaringly obvious that he did it again (even before this verdict). His team will have to first appeal to the New York Court of Appeals, and it's very unlikely that they'll even hear it. SCOTUS isn't likely to do him a favor but virtue of the highest court in NY not hearing it and this being a very obvious case of repeat offense. They suck right now, and they've made some really awful arguments and rulings, but they haven't exactly been a rubber stamp for Trump or Conservatives, either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for the sanity check. I'm not lover of the current Court, but no, they're not partisan (ruling for the GOP or Trump). Been collecting cases to show this. Only been going a week so far: https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-transgender-bathrooms-indiana-35c59c4dbe94668592c96e2a27c8d517 https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-immigration-texas-razor-wire-9daef6bd316211b6633ece718e505187 https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/u-s-supreme-court-wont-take-up-wa-capital-gains-tax-challenge/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* They're going for the big game, next up..... Chevron Doctrine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Thanks for the sanity check. I'm not lover of the current Court, but no, they're not partisan (ruling for the GOP or Trump). Been collecting cases to show this. Only been going a week so far: https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-transgender-bathrooms-indiana-35c59c4dbe94668592c96e2a27c8d517 https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-immigration-texas-razor-wire-9daef6bd316211b6633ece718e505187 https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/u-s-supreme-court-wont-take-up-wa-capital-gains-tax-challenge/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* They're going for the big game, next up..... Chevron Doctrine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* They're going for the big game, next up..... Chevron Doctrine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mercano@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) It’s a civil case, unfortunately, so jail time was never an option. At the time the incident occurred, there was a five year statute of limitations, so Trump has never been charged criminally in the matter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent