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I've seen a lot of posts here on Lemmy, specifically in the "fuck cars" communities as to how Electric Vehicles do pretty much nothing for the Climate, but I continue to see Climate activists everywhere try pushing so, so hard for Electric Vehicles.

Are they actually beneficial to the planet other than limiting exhaust, or is that it? or maybe exhaust is a way bigger problem?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its all about efficiencies even on a coal fired grid an EV produces less emissions a prius.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As long as you would drive enough so that difference can offset the fabrication of the EV. Most people will hit this number in less than five years.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/when-do-electric-vehicles-become-cleaner-than-gasoline-cars-2021-06-29/

We drive about 350km a year on a high-coal grid, so we won't drive enough for a new EV to be better for the environment than getting a used car that was headed for disposal.

I know people who drive more per day than my household drives per year, so I know that we are going to be a fairly rare case.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like you need a used EV.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If there was a decent used EV, it should be used by someone who has a greater need/want than I have.

My coffee consumption has a larger carbon footprint than my household's driving, so I could try to find other ways to reduce before I throw away a working vehicle.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Regulated Emissions and Energy Use in Technologies (GREET) model

Wasn't that the fun model where they ignored the emissions of producing the vehicle?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

GREET is broken into 2 models; GREET1 which is just about the use of the vehicle, and GREET2 which is just about the manufacturing of the vehicle.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the info. Do you know which combination was used to derive the number in the article?