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If you mean future as in save the environment, then I disagree. Individual transport as a mainstream mean of transportation is the problem. What we need to save ourselves is to replace 95% of cars with public transports and bicycles, and then the 5% remaining can be EVs if you want. The reality of EVs is they shift the carbon footprint from driving to manufacturing, and the emission from local to the power plants (depending on the production means where you live), but the total reduction is not nearly enough.
Also, many developed countries tout EVs as "AMAZING" for the environment. Meanwhile that is solely because none of the lithium mining and processing occurs in their nice countries. While they get their nice "green" batteries, China and South American countries destroy their environment strip mining and processing lithium ore. That shit is TERRIBLE for the environment, and there is no economic incentive to clean up the process. The news, media, politicians, CEOs, etc. never speak about this because it paints the reality of the picture. You're shifting the carbon footprint to something else, not really even reducing it.
I actually am very interested in the new solid state batteries Toyota is talking about. Using polymer based batteries can allow for longer lasting, less impactful energy storage to help make electric/H-fuel cell cars genuinely green/a great step from combustion vehicles
Even if EV's did reduce the world's carbon footprint, it still would not have that big an effect overall
One step at a time, I guess.
But also get real that you aren't going to cut fuel consumption if you continue to create a system that regularly sees 4 seater 3 ton machines, which require paved roads, used to move a single person around. That society isn't making it to the future. it can change or go extinct.
I know but even if everybody begins to approach it with common sense rather than political posturing, we are probably going to run out of time. I'm in my 60s and don't have any kids or grandkids but I still feel pretty badly for future generations.
Exactly. It will take a concerted effort by essentially everyone on the planet to drive ICEs less, eat less meat, air condition their home to less extreme temperatures, buy fewer electronic devices, and buy fewer products packaged in plastics in order to drive down carbon emissions.
Heat pumps should be required for all new buildings. With 300-500% efficiency and no CO2 make it a no brainer. FYI: yes the heat AND cool. Yes they work at -15 C (some at -25 C)
To me it seems that governments insentivizing for EVs and photo-voltaic purchases, is plain and simple green washing. It is pushing the responsibility on the shoulders of citizens (you should recycle, you should save water, you should produce your own green energy) instead of doing meaningful reforms and public investments that could have a real impact.
There really is some major gaslighting going on here and a lot of people don't even see it.