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[–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Yes, a man who hates Marx and Marxism is the most "vindicated" man alive. Dude writes articles that are sometimes good, that's it. lol

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Take a look through the rest of the thread -- the guy is the poster child for why we should actually investigate smears like "he hates Marx" instead of taking them at face value.

    I say in Why You Should Be A Socialist that [Marx] had “a better understanding than almost anyone else of the way that economics determines the fabric of the social world,” and praise texts of his as “brilliant” and “profound,” full of “great insight.” I am not sure how that can be squared with thinking I have scant regard for him.

    His issue with Marxism (in addition to anarchist critiques of it and the broader ML tradition) is basically that some Marxists are dogmatic almost to a religious degree, and can condescend to people who haven't read Das Kapital in its entirety.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    He’s never going to be accepted by most people here, I think, simply because of his stance on AES (“atrocities of communist regimes” and “Stalin will never be redeemable, Stalin is socialism’s worst enemy”).

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Stalin is socialism’s worst enemy

    Close with this statement but needs to figure out that it's fictional Stalin in the minds of the people that has created this problem. The solution is correcting the fiction, not reinforcing it by agreeing with the opposition to socialism that he was bad.

    The fictional Stalin they created is a punching bag boogieman rigged up to constantly give easy punches against socialism.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    dogmatic almost to a religious degree,

    "Does anyone else think Darwinian evolution is a cult?" same energy

    condescend to people who haven't read Das Kapital in its entirety.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppose_Book_Worship

    Mao's frequent slogan "no investigation, no right to speak" is a theme throughout the essay

    Mao: "SHUT THE FUCK UP RADLIBS LOL"

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago

    ...did you read Oppose Book Worship? Much of it is exactly Robinson’s point about how some Marxists are more obsessed with interpreting Marxist texts than with real-world engagement:

    Whatever is written in a book is right — such is still the mentality of culturally backward Chinese peasants. Strangely enough, within the Communist Party there are also people who always say in a discussion, "Show me where it's written in the book."...

    The method of studying the social sciences exclusively from the book is likewise extremely dangerous and may even lead one onto the road of counter-revolution. Clear proof of this is provided by the fact that whole batches of Chinese Communists who confined themselves to books in their study of the social sciences have turned into counter-revolutionaries. When we say Marxism is correct, it is certainly not because Marx was a "prophet" but because his theory has been proved correct in our practice and in our struggle.

    See also "I haven't read Marx's Capital, but I have the marks of capital all over my body."

    big-bill

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Yeah but that's not any real kind of refutation and not worth disregarding the hard fought for victories that Marxists have been able to achieve across the globe, a claim like that can be levied against any sufficiently motivated group. Someone considering themselves a leftist and refusing to engage with it's most expansive and liberatory history and theory calls into question the use of even calling people "leftists" in the first place, what's even the point?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's fine to disagree with him, but when we're talking about fellow leftists the disagreement should be with what they actually said or did. Caricaturing their positions (or more blatantly misrepresenting them) does nothing but create bitter infighting.

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