this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2024
845 points (100.0% liked)
196
16501 readers
2820 users here now
Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.
Rule: You must post before you leave.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
"pretentious dick" isn't a race.
Love how they just call everything racism
Except actual racism, that's fine plus it happened so long ago stop bringing it up
One european nation disliking the other: racism
Actual racism: is fine
Well of course...its racism against white people. By other white people. Which is the worst kind of racism, apparently.
Truly the definition of racism
Racism can easily include ethnicities/nationalities such as English and Scottish. The difference doesn't even have to be real considering race as a whole is largely a social construct once you get past the melanin.
Just look at the Irish being excluded from "whiteness" in the 19th century.
Hell, it's in Britain, and there's Old English uses of the term "races of men" that use race to basically mean tribe or clan.
Would it make you feel better to call it "clannishness?"
All that said, I don't think this is the kind of racism, the expression of nationalistic grudges, you need to bust out the placards and start marching in the streets against.
The thing is I consider what you described xenophobia not racism. Racism is purely based on skin colour
Then you're just wrong, Whoopi.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/whoopi-goldberg-s-holocaust-comments-view-could-inadvertently-help-fascists-ncna1288360
What even is this article?
I see you lied about trying to learn from your mistakes, Whoopi.
Sad.
Be better.
So Brits cant be racist towards the Irish then?
The way I see it no. They can be xenophobic and hateful but that is not racism per se.
This is literally about the nationality of a person (being British). Maybe racism isn't the best word, but it's certainly discrimination.
Lol, it's an individual in their field trying to give a friendly warning to a person who is too entitled to even try to understand the local dialect (not even different language!).
No one is being discriminated against, clown.
He is speaking Scots though. You can start arguments saying it isn't a language.
this isn't scots writing, this is someone who is probably not scottish trying to represent scottish english with text
Jfc with the semantics and completely missing of the point.. It's considered by many a dialect of English and should be understood by other English speakers without too much trouble. There, is that better? 🙄
Ironically enough, you don't seem to know the meaning of the word.
Yeah no, try listening to someone that actually speaks Scots and tell me is easily understood.
But it clearly isn't easy to understand the local dialect. And the other person doesn't even try to make himself be understood, eg by speaking slower.
There are tons of German dialects I would have trouble understanding as a German. Saying it's entitled to not be able to understand something like that is just far from reality if not ableist.
The picture is just a joke about the cultural hate of Scottish people against British people due to the history of these nations. It's not made to be taken seriously, but if you do… of course it's discrimination. I mean not the joke itself but what happens to the character in the joke. Like lol, it's literally because they are British. Trying to deny that is just ridiculous.
British people have such the thinnest of skin. Americans have been the center of European jokes for so long and most of us just nod and agree. But British? Like bro, you guys stopped Scottish independence and when they pass positive trans bills y'all get into a hissy fit and fucking step in and stop it. Maybe stop being such fucking dicks first about and maybe the jokes will stop.
English. Its the English. It's always the English. They ruined England!
They literally voted not to themselves.
yeah the British are famous for not going along with banter and you should definitely take this one dude on lemmy as a representative example of the entire country.
They kinda are tho. No way to piss off a br*t faster than saying anything critical of their empire
Your average Brit really does not give a shit
You're prob right I was just thinking of British r/196 users
I… am not British? Why would you think I am??? lmao
I don't even have anything against the joke; it's (kind of) funny and just a nod about the cultural hate of Scottish people against British people due to their nation's history. I was just telling that if you take it seriously (which it's not supposed to), it is discrimination. (I mean not the joke itself but what happens to the character in the joke.)
English though
Nationality, not race.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people