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We've known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it's a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future, but there are alternatives, especially if you have money, which a lot of Tesla customers do. And they're not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now? And now we've seen how Elaine runs their companies, why the hell would anybody put their trust in their products?

If you've bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you're a damn goober in my eyes. That's my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don't matter. You are the hardcore, foaming at the mouth Segway fan from the 2000s, have at me lol.

Update: The teary eyed, sweaty fingered responses to this are predictably hilarious. I've been called a guy that eats 4 pizzas a week in another old thread because of this, a cunt, a tool, a douche, a couple people spent their energy to tell me they don't understand me spending my energy posting this, some people are telling me something about Tesla or Elaine living in my head rent free. All genuinely pathetic responses, so GG lol. Cheers.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I can write from a Company perspective with multiple EVs. All Tesla models except X. We have VW Golf E, IDs, Mercedes EQS, E-Tron, Polestar and some mercedes E-vans. I've driven all of them...long range, short range, multiple months. And in the price range of 45-55k€ nothing beats The Model Y (2022). Its a great car. Tesla has made a great leap in quality from 2020 to 2022. We have Model 3s from different years, and the difference is huge. The recent ones are stellar for their price....no comparison with anything else on the market. This will certainly change quickly in the next years. The supercharger grid is also the single best feature.

Also...I can distinguish between a car and a delusional apartheid willy wonka.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Model Y (2022). Its a great car. Tesla has made a great leap in quality from 2020 to 2022. We have Model 3s from different years, and the difference is huge.

And let me say as someone who has been driven in a plethora of Teslas as Uber/Lyft vehicles… they have not lol. Squeaks and rattles on brand new 2022-2023 cars is just embarrassing. Trim pieces falling off is just pathetic.

Maybe they should use some of their “industry leading margins” to invest in a QA team because as it stands there is no QA at that company.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Could be dependant where they're manufactured. We've about ten 3/Ys; non squeaks or rattles to my knowledge. I've had a Model S couple years ago (pre Model 3 era) liked the car, but the quality wasn't there for the price. Had a Volco XC90 before that. Switched to a Model 3 for about 1-2 years, (tax reasons) - the build quality was bad...everything felt really cheap. After that We've got some of the first Model Ys from the German factory. (You get some tax incentives in Germany when your new EV is below 60k€). We've also got some 3s. The build quality difference was staggering. I still miss my Volvo...but the Model Y is close second. Just two days ago I've driven over 1000km across Germany...no squeaking. ;)

Just the damn freezing door handles in winter drove me crazy...but now you can pop the doors open via app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The supercharger grid is going away as an advantage. Also, if you bought last year, a Model Y was starting at $67,000. I almost bought one, and I'm so, so, so glad that I didn't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It was about 58.500€ for long range dual drive, and as a business you got some incentives. And yeah...the advantages are slowly going away...but they are still there. Most of the time the supercharger are cheaper (like 0.34€/kW at a SC and 0.69€/kW at aral pulse or ionity.) And better positioned.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

So very helpful...

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just hope your company doesn't cross Elon Musk or Tesla, because then their Tesla cars could suddenly stop working. They have done it before, I've never heard another company do that.

Also…I can distinguish between a car and a delusional apartheid willy wonka.

Except you can't really, because there are many other issues than how pleasent the car is to drive. Tesla is infamous for their monopoly repair service, where a tiny valve can cost the owner an entire new battery! There are so many documented cases that Tesla repair is outrageous, that that alone is cause to never buy a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Anyone who says they can buy a Tesla and sleep well at night because they don't give a shit about Elon Musk are the same people still listening to R Kelly.