▲ 719 ▼ Which pill do you choose? (i.imgur.com) submitted 2 years ago by TehBamski@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml 411 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PunkFlame@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago (23 children) No brainer. Restart at 6 years old. Time is priceless. permalink fedilink source hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] KinNectar@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago (20 children) Red pill all the way. Personal experience gains to be had. Also of course there is the prospect of crypto billionairedom. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (5 children) Red pill effectively kills your current spouse and kids if you have any. Also trying to re-engineer the relationship with your original spouse all over again seems like it'd be really creepy. If you go back, you effectively need to find someone else. Couldn't do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) The kid won't exist. The spouse will be fine, though maybe not with you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Sure, but you're throwing away your current spouse and kid in favor of a do over. That's pretty cold. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) Is it unethical to leave a partner? Should we censure Paul Simon for 50 ways to leave your lover? (Not addressing the kid bit, since it does seem a tad cold to unexistify someone for little fault of their own, also no one but you mentioned kids) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if you were going to divorce your partner, then by all means take the red pill. You'd probably both be better off then. I was speaking of presumably happy marriages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess if you're in the perfect partnership you and your partner could simultaneously take the red pill :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (13 children) Depending on your starting point there's a lot better opportunities out there that are less vulnerable to losing it all to a random hacker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] KinNectar@kbin.run 4 points 2 years ago I'm not saying I won't be buying real estate in San Francisco, Magic The Gathering cards, and shares in big tech, but a solid backbone of 1000x value bitcoin is hard to beat on multiples. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KinNectar@kbin.run 3 points 2 years ago (9 children) Actually bitcoin on a physical harddrive purchased at $50 or below stored in a safety deposit box is pretty ironclad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Bitrot might get you. printed out paper codes as a backup permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@local106.com 1 point 2 years ago That was a lot more difficult before BIP39 seed phrases were invented. You could of course write down anything, but there would've been a lot of room for error. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (6 children) Spinning hard drives last for decades. You can pretty absolutely protect yourself by storing two with multiple copies of the key each permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) They are succeptible to magnetic degradation, its why you go to open a jpeg from 8 years ago and some are suddenly corrupt. You have to leave them in a RAID setup with sonething self healing like ZFS. They are way more reliable than cold storage SSD ( which can start bitrot in as little as a month) but for cold storage magnetic tape is better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) Tape is just as susceptible to magnets, though it is a more stable medium. It's not like they'll be exposed to significant magnetic fields though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Its not just significant magnetic field ( apparently we do have geo magnetic storms that corrupt data) it is that assigning the 1 /0 bit is not permanent. The 1 or 0 you store fades with time as it wants to lose its assigned magnetism. You might be fine for 10 years, or you might lose a critical bit corrupting a file. it is why archival experts suggest if it is critical data stored offline you need to store on two or more different mediums, because "1 copy is not a backup". Anyway, we are getting deep in the weeds of data entropy and recovery and I think your original comment was meant as being helpful to the lay-person...whom may not actually care to much if they lose a file or two, unless it is a crypto wallet key--i would trust those M series BluRay archival format since the laser alters the disk, but printing out on paper as another copy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I must have been lucky with my 286's 20MB hdd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 2 years ago Since we get all the information we have now: the correct answer was Bitcoin Armory. You'd have a dedicated computer just for signing transactions, carried back and forth over flash drives. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Many of us are tech nerds. We know that those who lost bitcoin to hacks trusted coin exchanges too much. The people who kept their wallet offline are fine Those who kept their wallet in the cloud are poor permalink fedilink source parent [–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No brainer. Take the money. Global warming exists. WWIII might be happening. What's the point in being a depressed 6 year-old? permalink fedilink source parent [–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Oh hell no, I don't want to go through school again. Teenagers are horrible to each other. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KinNectar@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago (20 children) Red pill all the way. Personal experience gains to be had. Also of course there is the prospect of crypto billionairedom. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (5 children) Red pill effectively kills your current spouse and kids if you have any. Also trying to re-engineer the relationship with your original spouse all over again seems like it'd be really creepy. If you go back, you effectively need to find someone else. Couldn't do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) The kid won't exist. The spouse will be fine, though maybe not with you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Sure, but you're throwing away your current spouse and kid in favor of a do over. That's pretty cold. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) Is it unethical to leave a partner? Should we censure Paul Simon for 50 ways to leave your lover? (Not addressing the kid bit, since it does seem a tad cold to unexistify someone for little fault of their own, also no one but you mentioned kids) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if you were going to divorce your partner, then by all means take the red pill. You'd probably both be better off then. I was speaking of presumably happy marriages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess if you're in the perfect partnership you and your partner could simultaneously take the red pill :) permalink fedilink source parent [–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (13 children) Depending on your starting point there's a lot better opportunities out there that are less vulnerable to losing it all to a random hacker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] KinNectar@kbin.run 4 points 2 years ago I'm not saying I won't be buying real estate in San Francisco, Magic The Gathering cards, and shares in big tech, but a solid backbone of 1000x value bitcoin is hard to beat on multiples. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KinNectar@kbin.run 3 points 2 years ago (9 children) Actually bitcoin on a physical harddrive purchased at $50 or below stored in a safety deposit box is pretty ironclad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Bitrot might get you. printed out paper codes as a backup permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@local106.com 1 point 2 years ago That was a lot more difficult before BIP39 seed phrases were invented. You could of course write down anything, but there would've been a lot of room for error. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (6 children) Spinning hard drives last for decades. You can pretty absolutely protect yourself by storing two with multiple copies of the key each permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) They are succeptible to magnetic degradation, its why you go to open a jpeg from 8 years ago and some are suddenly corrupt. You have to leave them in a RAID setup with sonething self healing like ZFS. They are way more reliable than cold storage SSD ( which can start bitrot in as little as a month) but for cold storage magnetic tape is better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) Tape is just as susceptible to magnets, though it is a more stable medium. It's not like they'll be exposed to significant magnetic fields though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Its not just significant magnetic field ( apparently we do have geo magnetic storms that corrupt data) it is that assigning the 1 /0 bit is not permanent. The 1 or 0 you store fades with time as it wants to lose its assigned magnetism. You might be fine for 10 years, or you might lose a critical bit corrupting a file. it is why archival experts suggest if it is critical data stored offline you need to store on two or more different mediums, because "1 copy is not a backup". Anyway, we are getting deep in the weeds of data entropy and recovery and I think your original comment was meant as being helpful to the lay-person...whom may not actually care to much if they lose a file or two, unless it is a crypto wallet key--i would trust those M series BluRay archival format since the laser alters the disk, but printing out on paper as another copy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I must have been lucky with my 286's 20MB hdd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 2 years ago Since we get all the information we have now: the correct answer was Bitcoin Armory. You'd have a dedicated computer just for signing transactions, carried back and forth over flash drives. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Many of us are tech nerds. We know that those who lost bitcoin to hacks trusted coin exchanges too much. The people who kept their wallet offline are fine Those who kept their wallet in the cloud are poor permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (5 children) Red pill effectively kills your current spouse and kids if you have any. Also trying to re-engineer the relationship with your original spouse all over again seems like it'd be really creepy. If you go back, you effectively need to find someone else. Couldn't do that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) The kid won't exist. The spouse will be fine, though maybe not with you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Sure, but you're throwing away your current spouse and kid in favor of a do over. That's pretty cold. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) Is it unethical to leave a partner? Should we censure Paul Simon for 50 ways to leave your lover? (Not addressing the kid bit, since it does seem a tad cold to unexistify someone for little fault of their own, also no one but you mentioned kids) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if you were going to divorce your partner, then by all means take the red pill. You'd probably both be better off then. I was speaking of presumably happy marriages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess if you're in the perfect partnership you and your partner could simultaneously take the red pill :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) The kid won't exist. The spouse will be fine, though maybe not with you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Sure, but you're throwing away your current spouse and kid in favor of a do over. That's pretty cold. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) Is it unethical to leave a partner? Should we censure Paul Simon for 50 ways to leave your lover? (Not addressing the kid bit, since it does seem a tad cold to unexistify someone for little fault of their own, also no one but you mentioned kids) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if you were going to divorce your partner, then by all means take the red pill. You'd probably both be better off then. I was speaking of presumably happy marriages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess if you're in the perfect partnership you and your partner could simultaneously take the red pill :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (3 children) Sure, but you're throwing away your current spouse and kid in favor of a do over. That's pretty cold. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) Is it unethical to leave a partner? Should we censure Paul Simon for 50 ways to leave your lover? (Not addressing the kid bit, since it does seem a tad cold to unexistify someone for little fault of their own, also no one but you mentioned kids) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if you were going to divorce your partner, then by all means take the red pill. You'd probably both be better off then. I was speaking of presumably happy marriages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess if you're in the perfect partnership you and your partner could simultaneously take the red pill :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children) Is it unethical to leave a partner? Should we censure Paul Simon for 50 ways to leave your lover? (Not addressing the kid bit, since it does seem a tad cold to unexistify someone for little fault of their own, also no one but you mentioned kids) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if you were going to divorce your partner, then by all means take the red pill. You'd probably both be better off then. I was speaking of presumably happy marriages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess if you're in the perfect partnership you and your partner could simultaneously take the red pill :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) I mean if you were going to divorce your partner, then by all means take the red pill. You'd probably both be better off then. I was speaking of presumably happy marriages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess if you're in the perfect partnership you and your partner could simultaneously take the red pill :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago I guess if you're in the perfect partnership you and your partner could simultaneously take the red pill :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 point 2 years ago (13 children) Depending on your starting point there's a lot better opportunities out there that are less vulnerable to losing it all to a random hacker. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] KinNectar@kbin.run 4 points 2 years ago I'm not saying I won't be buying real estate in San Francisco, Magic The Gathering cards, and shares in big tech, but a solid backbone of 1000x value bitcoin is hard to beat on multiples. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KinNectar@kbin.run 3 points 2 years ago (9 children) Actually bitcoin on a physical harddrive purchased at $50 or below stored in a safety deposit box is pretty ironclad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Bitrot might get you. printed out paper codes as a backup permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@local106.com 1 point 2 years ago That was a lot more difficult before BIP39 seed phrases were invented. You could of course write down anything, but there would've been a lot of room for error. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (6 children) Spinning hard drives last for decades. You can pretty absolutely protect yourself by storing two with multiple copies of the key each permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) They are succeptible to magnetic degradation, its why you go to open a jpeg from 8 years ago and some are suddenly corrupt. You have to leave them in a RAID setup with sonething self healing like ZFS. They are way more reliable than cold storage SSD ( which can start bitrot in as little as a month) but for cold storage magnetic tape is better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) Tape is just as susceptible to magnets, though it is a more stable medium. It's not like they'll be exposed to significant magnetic fields though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Its not just significant magnetic field ( apparently we do have geo magnetic storms that corrupt data) it is that assigning the 1 /0 bit is not permanent. The 1 or 0 you store fades with time as it wants to lose its assigned magnetism. You might be fine for 10 years, or you might lose a critical bit corrupting a file. it is why archival experts suggest if it is critical data stored offline you need to store on two or more different mediums, because "1 copy is not a backup". Anyway, we are getting deep in the weeds of data entropy and recovery and I think your original comment was meant as being helpful to the lay-person...whom may not actually care to much if they lose a file or two, unless it is a crypto wallet key--i would trust those M series BluRay archival format since the laser alters the disk, but printing out on paper as another copy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I must have been lucky with my 286's 20MB hdd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent [–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 2 years ago Since we get all the information we have now: the correct answer was Bitcoin Armory. You'd have a dedicated computer just for signing transactions, carried back and forth over flash drives. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Many of us are tech nerds. We know that those who lost bitcoin to hacks trusted coin exchanges too much. The people who kept their wallet offline are fine Those who kept their wallet in the cloud are poor permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KinNectar@kbin.run 4 points 2 years ago I'm not saying I won't be buying real estate in San Francisco, Magic The Gathering cards, and shares in big tech, but a solid backbone of 1000x value bitcoin is hard to beat on multiples. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KinNectar@kbin.run 3 points 2 years ago (9 children) Actually bitcoin on a physical harddrive purchased at $50 or below stored in a safety deposit box is pretty ironclad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Bitrot might get you. printed out paper codes as a backup permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@local106.com 1 point 2 years ago That was a lot more difficult before BIP39 seed phrases were invented. You could of course write down anything, but there would've been a lot of room for error. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (6 children) Spinning hard drives last for decades. You can pretty absolutely protect yourself by storing two with multiple copies of the key each permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) They are succeptible to magnetic degradation, its why you go to open a jpeg from 8 years ago and some are suddenly corrupt. You have to leave them in a RAID setup with sonething self healing like ZFS. They are way more reliable than cold storage SSD ( which can start bitrot in as little as a month) but for cold storage magnetic tape is better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) Tape is just as susceptible to magnets, though it is a more stable medium. It's not like they'll be exposed to significant magnetic fields though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Its not just significant magnetic field ( apparently we do have geo magnetic storms that corrupt data) it is that assigning the 1 /0 bit is not permanent. The 1 or 0 you store fades with time as it wants to lose its assigned magnetism. You might be fine for 10 years, or you might lose a critical bit corrupting a file. it is why archival experts suggest if it is critical data stored offline you need to store on two or more different mediums, because "1 copy is not a backup". Anyway, we are getting deep in the weeds of data entropy and recovery and I think your original comment was meant as being helpful to the lay-person...whom may not actually care to much if they lose a file or two, unless it is a crypto wallet key--i would trust those M series BluRay archival format since the laser alters the disk, but printing out on paper as another copy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I must have been lucky with my 286's 20MB hdd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (8 children) Bitrot might get you. printed out paper codes as a backup permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@local106.com 1 point 2 years ago That was a lot more difficult before BIP39 seed phrases were invented. You could of course write down anything, but there would've been a lot of room for error. permalink fedilink source parent [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (6 children) Spinning hard drives last for decades. You can pretty absolutely protect yourself by storing two with multiple copies of the key each permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) They are succeptible to magnetic degradation, its why you go to open a jpeg from 8 years ago and some are suddenly corrupt. You have to leave them in a RAID setup with sonething self healing like ZFS. They are way more reliable than cold storage SSD ( which can start bitrot in as little as a month) but for cold storage magnetic tape is better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) Tape is just as susceptible to magnets, though it is a more stable medium. It's not like they'll be exposed to significant magnetic fields though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Its not just significant magnetic field ( apparently we do have geo magnetic storms that corrupt data) it is that assigning the 1 /0 bit is not permanent. The 1 or 0 you store fades with time as it wants to lose its assigned magnetism. You might be fine for 10 years, or you might lose a critical bit corrupting a file. it is why archival experts suggest if it is critical data stored offline you need to store on two or more different mediums, because "1 copy is not a backup". Anyway, we are getting deep in the weeds of data entropy and recovery and I think your original comment was meant as being helpful to the lay-person...whom may not actually care to much if they lose a file or two, unless it is a crypto wallet key--i would trust those M series BluRay archival format since the laser alters the disk, but printing out on paper as another copy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I must have been lucky with my 286's 20MB hdd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explodicle@local106.com 1 point 2 years ago That was a lot more difficult before BIP39 seed phrases were invented. You could of course write down anything, but there would've been a lot of room for error. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (6 children) Spinning hard drives last for decades. You can pretty absolutely protect yourself by storing two with multiple copies of the key each permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) They are succeptible to magnetic degradation, its why you go to open a jpeg from 8 years ago and some are suddenly corrupt. You have to leave them in a RAID setup with sonething self healing like ZFS. They are way more reliable than cold storage SSD ( which can start bitrot in as little as a month) but for cold storage magnetic tape is better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) Tape is just as susceptible to magnets, though it is a more stable medium. It's not like they'll be exposed to significant magnetic fields though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Its not just significant magnetic field ( apparently we do have geo magnetic storms that corrupt data) it is that assigning the 1 /0 bit is not permanent. The 1 or 0 you store fades with time as it wants to lose its assigned magnetism. You might be fine for 10 years, or you might lose a critical bit corrupting a file. it is why archival experts suggest if it is critical data stored offline you need to store on two or more different mediums, because "1 copy is not a backup". Anyway, we are getting deep in the weeds of data entropy and recovery and I think your original comment was meant as being helpful to the lay-person...whom may not actually care to much if they lose a file or two, unless it is a crypto wallet key--i would trust those M series BluRay archival format since the laser alters the disk, but printing out on paper as another copy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I must have been lucky with my 286's 20MB hdd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (5 children) They are succeptible to magnetic degradation, its why you go to open a jpeg from 8 years ago and some are suddenly corrupt. You have to leave them in a RAID setup with sonething self healing like ZFS. They are way more reliable than cold storage SSD ( which can start bitrot in as little as a month) but for cold storage magnetic tape is better permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) Tape is just as susceptible to magnets, though it is a more stable medium. It's not like they'll be exposed to significant magnetic fields though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Its not just significant magnetic field ( apparently we do have geo magnetic storms that corrupt data) it is that assigning the 1 /0 bit is not permanent. The 1 or 0 you store fades with time as it wants to lose its assigned magnetism. You might be fine for 10 years, or you might lose a critical bit corrupting a file. it is why archival experts suggest if it is critical data stored offline you need to store on two or more different mediums, because "1 copy is not a backup". Anyway, we are getting deep in the weeds of data entropy and recovery and I think your original comment was meant as being helpful to the lay-person...whom may not actually care to much if they lose a file or two, unless it is a crypto wallet key--i would trust those M series BluRay archival format since the laser alters the disk, but printing out on paper as another copy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I must have been lucky with my 286's 20MB hdd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) Tape is just as susceptible to magnets, though it is a more stable medium. It's not like they'll be exposed to significant magnetic fields though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Its not just significant magnetic field ( apparently we do have geo magnetic storms that corrupt data) it is that assigning the 1 /0 bit is not permanent. The 1 or 0 you store fades with time as it wants to lose its assigned magnetism. You might be fine for 10 years, or you might lose a critical bit corrupting a file. it is why archival experts suggest if it is critical data stored offline you need to store on two or more different mediums, because "1 copy is not a backup". Anyway, we are getting deep in the weeds of data entropy and recovery and I think your original comment was meant as being helpful to the lay-person...whom may not actually care to much if they lose a file or two, unless it is a crypto wallet key--i would trust those M series BluRay archival format since the laser alters the disk, but printing out on paper as another copy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I must have been lucky with my 286's 20MB hdd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) Its not just significant magnetic field ( apparently we do have geo magnetic storms that corrupt data) it is that assigning the 1 /0 bit is not permanent. The 1 or 0 you store fades with time as it wants to lose its assigned magnetism. You might be fine for 10 years, or you might lose a critical bit corrupting a file. it is why archival experts suggest if it is critical data stored offline you need to store on two or more different mediums, because "1 copy is not a backup". Anyway, we are getting deep in the weeds of data entropy and recovery and I think your original comment was meant as being helpful to the lay-person...whom may not actually care to much if they lose a file or two, unless it is a crypto wallet key--i would trust those M series BluRay archival format since the laser alters the disk, but printing out on paper as another copy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I must have been lucky with my 286's 20MB hdd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) I must have been lucky with my 286's 20MB hdd permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) You definitly have been. I have not been so lucky. Lost various data on 10-15 year old drives ( stored in climate controlled basement ) , nothing critical, but enough to prompt me to do regular full copy off and back on process as a refresh permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* I probably should take another image of the 286 and diff it against the earlier backup And if I time travel, I'll put the key on a hard drive, tape, DVD, and archive quality dvd permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 2 years ago Since we get all the information we have now: the correct answer was Bitcoin Armory. You'd have a dedicated computer just for signing transactions, carried back and forth over flash drives. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] psud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Many of us are tech nerds. We know that those who lost bitcoin to hacks trusted coin exchanges too much. The people who kept their wallet offline are fine Those who kept their wallet in the cloud are poor permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago No brainer. Take the money. Global warming exists. WWIII might be happening. What's the point in being a depressed 6 year-old? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 1 point 2 years ago Oh hell no, I don't want to go through school again. Teenagers are horrible to each other. permalink fedilink source parent