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[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (5 children)

How is fucking Saudi Arabia not the darkest red unless you are blatantly giving them bonus points for being a western ally. SA is about as autocratic as you get.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago

"Just because it is a literal monarchy where no one votes doesn't mean they can't support Western Democratic Values ®" the person who made this map probably.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They rank Saudi Arabia as “more democratic” than the PRC…

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Saudi Arabia votes in OPEC votes on whether to produce more oil, so therefore they’re democratic

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago

Egypts democractically elected dictatorship is more democractic than China or Cuba. Okay right sure.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Because to them democracy is bourgeois democracy. Saudi Arabia let the bourgeois have some power so they have some « democratic » caracteristics according to this model.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

i assume you're actually french, but i find the idea of using the guillemets as a sign for neoliberal obfuscation very funny.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's nonsensical to measure ”democracy” as a number, but even if you don't believe the elections in China, Russia or Venezuela are entirely fair, they still have them. Logically, it makes no sense for those countries to even be compared to a country like Saudi Arabia that has no democratic institutions, but what makes this map even more absurd is actually having them below Saudi Arabia.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It’s because liberals’ understanding of democracy is “democracy = good”. They cannot comprehend that the enemy might also have elections and representatives that the people like and want, even if it goes against their values. If there were two choices, one town voting go reinstate chattel slavery and the other town criminalizing slavery without putting it to a vote, liberals would say the former is better because it’s democratic.