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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe search for killed while on autopilot?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

That's all the people who were asleep on the highway or driving at very high speed in town

~~The recent versions don't allow either of those behaviours now, so those crashes aren't happening anymore.~~

Full self driving doesn't do that

And the deaths I'm interested in are these ones being caused by FSD, not lane keeping and cruise control. Loads of brands do lane keeping and cruise control and implement it no better than Tesla

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just keep in mind that FSD is only as safe as they claim because it's supervised.

I would hope that even a reasonably working system would be better with a human vigilantly watching it than a human driving regularly.

The system would have to be really bad to be worse than that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But does FSD change the logic for the lane keeping and the speed & distance?

Aren’t one of the features “navigate on autopilot?”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is quite different. Navigate on autopilot is lane keeping, cruise control, and automatic highway exits. FSD tries to do all driving tasks - turns at stop signs, at lights, keeping to the correct side on roads with no centre line, negotiating with oncoming traffic on narrow roads...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it adds more capabilities for sure. But if you are on a moderate to high speed road where autopilot works fine, then is the control logic any different?

Obviously there are various tours of accidents that autopilot would never get the chance to cause, like maybe turning right at an intersection and hitting a pedestrian. But do they act differently on a main road where teslas have done things like run into tractor trailers?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The one that hit a tractor trailer was years ago. They are far better now, specifically they see low contrast stuff now and that's on autopilot. The biggest difference to the user will be the ability to have hands off the controls.

It isn't the same though. FSD is written completely differently to autopilot. It's a different program.

Other accidents it won't have on those roads include falling asleep and running off the road, or being surprised by someone braking ahead and running into them

I'm sure it will be worse than humans around animals on the road. I wonder if it will see a wombat before it hits it.