▲ 333 ▼ '100-200,000, not two million': Israel's finance minister envisions depopulated Gaza (www.haaretz.com) submitted 2 years ago by NightOwl@lemmy.ca to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 180 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 80 points 2 years ago (13 children) So he wants to kill 90% of the populace in a geographical region. How does anyone deny this is genocide? permalink fedilink source hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 years ago I think their goal is to displace 90% into Egypt and kill the rest. Still genocide. permalink fedilink source parent [+] jimbo@lemmy.world -26 points 2 years ago (11 children) Where was it stated that the goal was to kill 90% of the population? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is not possible to move 1.8 million people out of a region like Gaza without mass death. This is not some secret information that Israel doesn't know. The state of Israel has demonstrated at every possible opportunity that at best it does not care and at worst that's the goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It is not possible to move 1.8 million people out of a region like Gaza without mass death. Ok, but that still doesn't justify the specific claim that the guy in question here wants to kill 90% of the population. permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk -15 points 2 years ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] jimbo@lemmy.world -29 points 2 years ago* (7 children) No shit. I read a portion of the transcribed interview where the finance minister was talking about this and what he was advocating was mass emigration. That's also super shitty, but it's not at all the same as murdering millions of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forcibly deporting people is genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago especially when it is not possible for them to emigrate. Forcing Gazans to emigrate to Egypt, when you are neither Gazans nor Egyptians is ridiculous at best. Next will be the Israeli governments saying "we took care of them for this long, now it is domeone else's turn." permalink fedilink source parent [–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you're saying the Trail of Tears was perfectly fine and not seen as Genocide? I think you're wrong and a blind fool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You tell me. Did I say that it was perfectly fine? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is essentially the same, it would result in the deaths of thousands. Even the Nazis tried to relocate Jewish people and realized it wasn't feasible. The people advocating for relocation know this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* The "deaths of thousands" is the same as "murdering millions of people"? Seems like you're addressing something other than what I said. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago “What we do not understand is that while there were protests against Germany’s defensive action in this field, there was, on the other hand, no willingness to absorb the excess Jewish population emigrating from Germany.” • Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 years ago I think their goal is to displace 90% into Egypt and kill the rest. Still genocide. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jimbo@lemmy.world -26 points 2 years ago (11 children) Where was it stated that the goal was to kill 90% of the population? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is not possible to move 1.8 million people out of a region like Gaza without mass death. This is not some secret information that Israel doesn't know. The state of Israel has demonstrated at every possible opportunity that at best it does not care and at worst that's the goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It is not possible to move 1.8 million people out of a region like Gaza without mass death. Ok, but that still doesn't justify the specific claim that the guy in question here wants to kill 90% of the population. permalink fedilink source parent [+] quo@feddit.uk -15 points 2 years ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] jimbo@lemmy.world -29 points 2 years ago* (7 children) No shit. I read a portion of the transcribed interview where the finance minister was talking about this and what he was advocating was mass emigration. That's also super shitty, but it's not at all the same as murdering millions of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forcibly deporting people is genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago especially when it is not possible for them to emigrate. Forcing Gazans to emigrate to Egypt, when you are neither Gazans nor Egyptians is ridiculous at best. Next will be the Israeli governments saying "we took care of them for this long, now it is domeone else's turn." permalink fedilink source parent [–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you're saying the Trail of Tears was perfectly fine and not seen as Genocide? I think you're wrong and a blind fool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You tell me. Did I say that it was perfectly fine? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is essentially the same, it would result in the deaths of thousands. Even the Nazis tried to relocate Jewish people and realized it wasn't feasible. The people advocating for relocation know this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* The "deaths of thousands" is the same as "murdering millions of people"? Seems like you're addressing something other than what I said. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago “What we do not understand is that while there were protests against Germany’s defensive action in this field, there was, on the other hand, no willingness to absorb the excess Jewish population emigrating from Germany.” • Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is not possible to move 1.8 million people out of a region like Gaza without mass death. This is not some secret information that Israel doesn't know. The state of Israel has demonstrated at every possible opportunity that at best it does not care and at worst that's the goal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It is not possible to move 1.8 million people out of a region like Gaza without mass death. Ok, but that still doesn't justify the specific claim that the guy in question here wants to kill 90% of the population. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) It is not possible to move 1.8 million people out of a region like Gaza without mass death. Ok, but that still doesn't justify the specific claim that the guy in question here wants to kill 90% of the population. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] quo@feddit.uk -15 points 2 years ago (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] jimbo@lemmy.world -29 points 2 years ago* (7 children) No shit. I read a portion of the transcribed interview where the finance minister was talking about this and what he was advocating was mass emigration. That's also super shitty, but it's not at all the same as murdering millions of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forcibly deporting people is genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago especially when it is not possible for them to emigrate. Forcing Gazans to emigrate to Egypt, when you are neither Gazans nor Egyptians is ridiculous at best. Next will be the Israeli governments saying "we took care of them for this long, now it is domeone else's turn." permalink fedilink source parent [–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you're saying the Trail of Tears was perfectly fine and not seen as Genocide? I think you're wrong and a blind fool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You tell me. Did I say that it was perfectly fine? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is essentially the same, it would result in the deaths of thousands. Even the Nazis tried to relocate Jewish people and realized it wasn't feasible. The people advocating for relocation know this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* The "deaths of thousands" is the same as "murdering millions of people"? Seems like you're addressing something other than what I said. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago “What we do not understand is that while there were protests against Germany’s defensive action in this field, there was, on the other hand, no willingness to absorb the excess Jewish population emigrating from Germany.” • Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jimbo@lemmy.world -29 points 2 years ago* (7 children) No shit. I read a portion of the transcribed interview where the finance minister was talking about this and what he was advocating was mass emigration. That's also super shitty, but it's not at all the same as murdering millions of people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forcibly deporting people is genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago especially when it is not possible for them to emigrate. Forcing Gazans to emigrate to Egypt, when you are neither Gazans nor Egyptians is ridiculous at best. Next will be the Israeli governments saying "we took care of them for this long, now it is domeone else's turn." permalink fedilink source parent [–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you're saying the Trail of Tears was perfectly fine and not seen as Genocide? I think you're wrong and a blind fool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You tell me. Did I say that it was perfectly fine? permalink fedilink source parent [–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is essentially the same, it would result in the deaths of thousands. Even the Nazis tried to relocate Jewish people and realized it wasn't feasible. The people advocating for relocation know this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* The "deaths of thousands" is the same as "murdering millions of people"? Seems like you're addressing something other than what I said. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago “What we do not understand is that while there were protests against Germany’s defensive action in this field, there was, on the other hand, no willingness to absorb the excess Jewish population emigrating from Germany.” • Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 child) Forcibly deporting people is genocide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago especially when it is not possible for them to emigrate. Forcing Gazans to emigrate to Egypt, when you are neither Gazans nor Egyptians is ridiculous at best. Next will be the Israeli governments saying "we took care of them for this long, now it is domeone else's turn." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago especially when it is not possible for them to emigrate. Forcing Gazans to emigrate to Egypt, when you are neither Gazans nor Egyptians is ridiculous at best. Next will be the Israeli governments saying "we took care of them for this long, now it is domeone else's turn." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) So you're saying the Trail of Tears was perfectly fine and not seen as Genocide? I think you're wrong and a blind fool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You tell me. Did I say that it was perfectly fine? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jimbo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You tell me. Did I say that it was perfectly fine? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is essentially the same, it would result in the deaths of thousands. Even the Nazis tried to relocate Jewish people and realized it wasn't feasible. The people advocating for relocation know this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* The "deaths of thousands" is the same as "murdering millions of people"? Seems like you're addressing something other than what I said. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* The "deaths of thousands" is the same as "murdering millions of people"? Seems like you're addressing something other than what I said. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago “What we do not understand is that while there were protests against Germany’s defensive action in this field, there was, on the other hand, no willingness to absorb the excess Jewish population emigrating from Germany.” • Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent