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U.S. oil production has hit a record under Biden, but he seldom mentions it. (www.washingtonpost.com)
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[–] 11 points 2 years ago (49 children)

That's still a bad reason to increase the speed at which we're killing ourselves.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (33 children)

    It's a great reason until there's an alternative. As long as voters look to gas prices for their votes, taking action that raises them is politically toxic.

    Meanwhile leftists are literally criticizing the Biden administration for high gas prices' impact on the working class.

    You want to change it? Let's change it. Starting with activists.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Meanwhile leftists are literally criticizing the Biden administration for high gas prices’ impact on the working class.

    Which leftists are these? I’ve yet to run into them.

    You want to change it? Let’s change it. Starting with activists.

    I still haven’t been able to decipher what kinds of activists you’re alluding to.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (30 children)

    We are out of time.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (29 children)

    that's not an answer. sure go ahead and kill oil production, make gas prices high and give trump the presidency again. see how that works out for the environment.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (28 children)

    I mean. It's the only answer. You cant see the dominos start to fall like they have this year and decide "let's pump more oil and maybe some Conservatives will vote for me over trump". It's too late and it was too late 10 years ago. This isn't just a US problem. This is global societal breakdown in the next 10 - 20 years.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    You cant see the dominos start to fall like they have this year and decide “let’s pump more oil and maybe some Conservatives will vote for me over trump”.

    of course you can. the demand for oil/gas will be there regardless, people aren't all going to stop driving ICE cars just because Biden cut all US oil production. it's political suicide, not just for Biden but for US environmental policy in general.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (24 children)

    Economic collapse is not an answer to anything. Let alone "the only answer".

    All it does is highlight how big of a threat environmentalists are to society

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Economic collapse may be the best answer. Endless production and consumption of goods may make people have material improvements to their lives but it is... excessive.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    What good is a dick sucking machine when humanity has driven 70% of species to extinction? Fuck humanity.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    No it's not

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Are you?

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  • [+] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)
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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    You didn't say it's not going well. You said it's collapsing. It's not collapsing, and Rather than back it up you change the subject.

    The economy is not collapsing

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  • [+] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Poverty is at the lowest level now then it ever has been under human history. You have capitalism to thank for that. The economy is doing just fine, it's not going anywhere. We're just in a dip as we recover from the economic attacks we were subjected to by public health

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Poverty has objectively declined. We must work to preserve capitalism against the attacks waged on it by those who want to bring us back to the ages of widespread poverty

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    The slowest will be the first to go.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Yeah the slowest environmentalists are the biggest threats to society too

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Yeah man, it's the environmentalists you gotta look out for, what with their wanting harmony among nature. I bet you're fucking terrified of antifa too lmao.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Yes, environmentalists are tools programmed to bring down society from the inside out. They believe that it's noble to destroy society in order to save the environment

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    not when the opposition would increase the speed even more.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Cmon guys you're both pretty, lets accept that were doomed and vote Big Asteroid 2024

    Really though vote now for the chance to vote again, not that it fucking matters because we're 40 years late to taking any corrective action, but I'd like to vote again

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    So business as usual. We were doomed 20 years ago, when we could have had a fighting chance.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    not exactly business as usual. Biden is doing more than most presidents have. Not enough, but also not nothing. But the fact is not enough will ever be done until public opinion drastically changes.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Biden signed off on a record number of new oil projects, it's not business as usual, it's business is accelerating as usual. Environment be dammed

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  • [+] -8 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    We're not killing ourselves

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    We most assuredly are.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    No we are not

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    K lol have you heard of the limits to growth?

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    We're not killing ourselves

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