▲ 72 ▼ I review ebikes for a living — these are my three favorite ebikes for 2024 (www.tomsguide.com) submitted 2 years ago by FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world [M] to c/micromobility@lemmy.world 18 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 12 points 2 years ago (3 children) I like that cargo bike but damn 6k? That's close to cheap car territory. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] swicano@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I think that's the manufacturer's thought too, if it's a car replacement with much lower upkeep costs, they should be allowed to charge as much as a cheap car. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Good thing the bike has low ongoing costs compared to a car: no fuel, insurance, and low maintenance costs. Over a year, a car costs thousands just to operate. Plus you're comparing a brand new bike, which will go with little maintenance for years, to a cheap car, which will break down next month. https://youtu.be/rQhzEnWCgHA?t=287 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's still a large upfront cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So is a car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No one is saying it's not. Your statement's implication is that because follow up costs are so low that the upfront is negligable, but that's fallacious as it's still significant and potentially out of reach for someone that wasn't planning on spending as much as a car upfront. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Your statement’s implication is ... I'm gonna say the same thing after my cat wakes up: "Ooooo big stretch." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have a hard time holding conversation past 1 comment? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) In this case, when I wrote "You got all of that", my statement's implication was that I read your whole comment. Having a hard time comprehending any comments? Maybe I should type slower for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sure dude. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to assuage your delicate ego. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Really, how much is new, cheap car? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Citron ami goes for arond 8k in Europe, but I'm sure someone could find cheaper used. And yeah taxes, fuel, and maintenance are more, but most consumers badly underestimate those costs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Citron ami I am 1,95 and would take a cargo bike instead if I had to choose, so I could sit upright, lol. I’m sure someone could find cheaper used. Sure but that is not a good argument. Used bikes are cheaper than new ones too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] swicano@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago I think that's the manufacturer's thought too, if it's a car replacement with much lower upkeep costs, they should be allowed to charge as much as a cheap car. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Good thing the bike has low ongoing costs compared to a car: no fuel, insurance, and low maintenance costs. Over a year, a car costs thousands just to operate. Plus you're comparing a brand new bike, which will go with little maintenance for years, to a cheap car, which will break down next month. https://youtu.be/rQhzEnWCgHA?t=287 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's still a large upfront cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So is a car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No one is saying it's not. Your statement's implication is that because follow up costs are so low that the upfront is negligable, but that's fallacious as it's still significant and potentially out of reach for someone that wasn't planning on spending as much as a car upfront. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Your statement’s implication is ... I'm gonna say the same thing after my cat wakes up: "Ooooo big stretch." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have a hard time holding conversation past 1 comment? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) In this case, when I wrote "You got all of that", my statement's implication was that I read your whole comment. Having a hard time comprehending any comments? Maybe I should type slower for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sure dude. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to assuage your delicate ego. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's still a large upfront cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So is a car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No one is saying it's not. Your statement's implication is that because follow up costs are so low that the upfront is negligable, but that's fallacious as it's still significant and potentially out of reach for someone that wasn't planning on spending as much as a car upfront. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Your statement’s implication is ... I'm gonna say the same thing after my cat wakes up: "Ooooo big stretch." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have a hard time holding conversation past 1 comment? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) In this case, when I wrote "You got all of that", my statement's implication was that I read your whole comment. Having a hard time comprehending any comments? Maybe I should type slower for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sure dude. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to assuage your delicate ego. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) So is a car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No one is saying it's not. Your statement's implication is that because follow up costs are so low that the upfront is negligable, but that's fallacious as it's still significant and potentially out of reach for someone that wasn't planning on spending as much as a car upfront. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Your statement’s implication is ... I'm gonna say the same thing after my cat wakes up: "Ooooo big stretch." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have a hard time holding conversation past 1 comment? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) In this case, when I wrote "You got all of that", my statement's implication was that I read your whole comment. Having a hard time comprehending any comments? Maybe I should type slower for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sure dude. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to assuage your delicate ego. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) No one is saying it's not. Your statement's implication is that because follow up costs are so low that the upfront is negligable, but that's fallacious as it's still significant and potentially out of reach for someone that wasn't planning on spending as much as a car upfront. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Your statement’s implication is ... I'm gonna say the same thing after my cat wakes up: "Ooooo big stretch." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have a hard time holding conversation past 1 comment? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) In this case, when I wrote "You got all of that", my statement's implication was that I read your whole comment. Having a hard time comprehending any comments? Maybe I should type slower for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sure dude. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to assuage your delicate ego. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Your statement’s implication is ... I'm gonna say the same thing after my cat wakes up: "Ooooo big stretch." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have a hard time holding conversation past 1 comment? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) In this case, when I wrote "You got all of that", my statement's implication was that I read your whole comment. Having a hard time comprehending any comments? Maybe I should type slower for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sure dude. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to assuage your delicate ego. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Have a hard time holding conversation past 1 comment? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) In this case, when I wrote "You got all of that", my statement's implication was that I read your whole comment. Having a hard time comprehending any comments? Maybe I should type slower for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sure dude. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to assuage your delicate ego. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) In this case, when I wrote "You got all of that", my statement's implication was that I read your whole comment. Having a hard time comprehending any comments? Maybe I should type slower for you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sure dude. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to assuage your delicate ego. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Sure dude. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to assuage your delicate ego. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Really, how much is new, cheap car? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Citron ami goes for arond 8k in Europe, but I'm sure someone could find cheaper used. And yeah taxes, fuel, and maintenance are more, but most consumers badly underestimate those costs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Citron ami I am 1,95 and would take a cargo bike instead if I had to choose, so I could sit upright, lol. I’m sure someone could find cheaper used. Sure but that is not a good argument. Used bikes are cheaper than new ones too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Citron ami goes for arond 8k in Europe, but I'm sure someone could find cheaper used. And yeah taxes, fuel, and maintenance are more, but most consumers badly underestimate those costs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Citron ami I am 1,95 and would take a cargo bike instead if I had to choose, so I could sit upright, lol. I’m sure someone could find cheaper used. Sure but that is not a good argument. Used bikes are cheaper than new ones too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Citron ami I am 1,95 and would take a cargo bike instead if I had to choose, so I could sit upright, lol. I’m sure someone could find cheaper used. Sure but that is not a good argument. Used bikes are cheaper than new ones too. permalink fedilink source parent