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Disclaimer: This is a joke. Ecofascism is obviously bad, kids. Don't be that guy.

https://theconversation.com/8-billion-people-why-trying-to-control-the-population-is-often-futile-and-harmful-194369

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[–] 53 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Yeah you know what would actually be better? Fixing legislation so that the 100 companies that create the majority of pollution stop doing that

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Lmmfao, yeah good luck with that.. (hint: the people who own those companies also own the government who makes the laws, there is no reforming capitalism, it's designed that way)

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They own the people in government, not the government itself. Change the people, change the ownership.

    The trick is you have to start small, cause the ones in the bigger positions rely on the small ones to maintain their power.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The problem is that to obtain those big pistons, you need the financial backing of those big companies. So eventually as an honest politician climbs the ladder, he has to sell out, or fizzle out. You can't win federal elections without PAC money.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Until you hit critical mass on those small politicians, and they change the playing field. The problem is seeing them only as stepping stones on the way to greatness, and not as a power in their own right.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    The statistic that "Just 100 companies responsible for 71% of global emissions" is better understood as "Just 100 companies responsible for selling 71% of global fossil fuels". It's fundamentally saying that there's a few large coal, oil and gas companies worldwide selling us most of the supply.

    If you want those companies to stop polluting, that amounts to those companies not selling fossil fuels.

    Which is honestly the goal, but the only way to do that is to replace the demand for fossil fuels. Cutting the US off from fossil fuels would kill a ton of people if you didn't first make an energy grid 100% powered by renewables, got people to buy electric cars, cold climate heat pumps, etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How do you think we could stop the pollution from those companies (most of which are oil producers) without also directly impacting normal people? There's no way of getting at the structural that avoids individual change.

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