▲ 1877 ▼ VW Is Putting Buttons Back in Cars Because People Complained Enough (www.thedrive.com) submitted 2 years ago by boem@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 294 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 64 points 2 years ago (9 children) I don’t want a touchscreen in my fucking car. That is all. permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (6 children) I don’t mind a touchscreen. Apple CarPlay/Android Auto are really nice. I just also want physical controls for everything the car needs to do to be a car, like climate control or wipers or shifting. And also physical controls for play/pause, skip, volume, and tuning. Touchscreens can do a lot to enhance the car experience, but they cannot replace physical buttons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Electromechanical_Supergiant@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) The car experience The car experience is driving. We don't need 6 different fuel efficiency visualizations and we sure as fuck don't need games or videos in the car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure. I don’t want games or videos (though I can see how that would be useful while waiting for an EV to charge). I just want Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. Or, failing that, whatever controls are necessary to facilitate an infotainment system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Electromechanical_Supergiant@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How much entertainment do you need while driving? Can't you just plug your phone in for some music? Do you really need a maps app built into your car when you already have one on your phone? I just can't see a reasonable use for an infotainment system that isn't already taken care of perfectly by the device I already have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago In my older car, I have a mount for my phone because it does not have GPS. But it does work just fine for Bluetooth. CarPlay is a lot easier to use. As was Android Auto when I had an Android phone. These also give me greater flexibility with regard to mapping. I can, for example, simply tell my phone to navigate to my wife’s location. (Obviously not a dealbreaker to not have, but convenient!) It can also be really nice to have a side-by-side view of the media player and the maps. I dunno, it’s not like I wouldn’t buy a car that doesn’t have CarPlay, but that car would lose some points in my mind. It’s the kind of thing I didn’t think I’d appreciate as much until I had it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it's the kind of thing that it's not reasonable to expect that people will stop by the side of the road to do, it should be buttons. The rest can be touch. So for example setting a destination on your navigation interface is fine to do via touch screen, but starting/stopping swipers or changing audio volume is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Very well put. permalink fedilink source parent [–] deafboy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd go as far as mounting a full size qwerty keyboard on the steering wheel. Although we'd somehow have to deal with the shrapnel grenade situation as soon as the airbag hits it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago But if I'm gonna go out, having WASD forever embedded in my forehead is kinda metal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (6 children) I don’t mind a touchscreen. Apple CarPlay/Android Auto are really nice. I just also want physical controls for everything the car needs to do to be a car, like climate control or wipers or shifting. And also physical controls for play/pause, skip, volume, and tuning. Touchscreens can do a lot to enhance the car experience, but they cannot replace physical buttons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Electromechanical_Supergiant@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) The car experience The car experience is driving. We don't need 6 different fuel efficiency visualizations and we sure as fuck don't need games or videos in the car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure. I don’t want games or videos (though I can see how that would be useful while waiting for an EV to charge). I just want Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. Or, failing that, whatever controls are necessary to facilitate an infotainment system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Electromechanical_Supergiant@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How much entertainment do you need while driving? Can't you just plug your phone in for some music? Do you really need a maps app built into your car when you already have one on your phone? I just can't see a reasonable use for an infotainment system that isn't already taken care of perfectly by the device I already have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago In my older car, I have a mount for my phone because it does not have GPS. But it does work just fine for Bluetooth. CarPlay is a lot easier to use. As was Android Auto when I had an Android phone. These also give me greater flexibility with regard to mapping. I can, for example, simply tell my phone to navigate to my wife’s location. (Obviously not a dealbreaker to not have, but convenient!) It can also be really nice to have a side-by-side view of the media player and the maps. I dunno, it’s not like I wouldn’t buy a car that doesn’t have CarPlay, but that car would lose some points in my mind. It’s the kind of thing I didn’t think I’d appreciate as much until I had it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it's the kind of thing that it's not reasonable to expect that people will stop by the side of the road to do, it should be buttons. The rest can be touch. So for example setting a destination on your navigation interface is fine to do via touch screen, but starting/stopping swipers or changing audio volume is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Very well put. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Electromechanical_Supergiant@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) The car experience The car experience is driving. We don't need 6 different fuel efficiency visualizations and we sure as fuck don't need games or videos in the car. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure. I don’t want games or videos (though I can see how that would be useful while waiting for an EV to charge). I just want Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. Or, failing that, whatever controls are necessary to facilitate an infotainment system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Electromechanical_Supergiant@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How much entertainment do you need while driving? Can't you just plug your phone in for some music? Do you really need a maps app built into your car when you already have one on your phone? I just can't see a reasonable use for an infotainment system that isn't already taken care of perfectly by the device I already have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago In my older car, I have a mount for my phone because it does not have GPS. But it does work just fine for Bluetooth. CarPlay is a lot easier to use. As was Android Auto when I had an Android phone. These also give me greater flexibility with regard to mapping. I can, for example, simply tell my phone to navigate to my wife’s location. (Obviously not a dealbreaker to not have, but convenient!) It can also be really nice to have a side-by-side view of the media player and the maps. I dunno, it’s not like I wouldn’t buy a car that doesn’t have CarPlay, but that car would lose some points in my mind. It’s the kind of thing I didn’t think I’d appreciate as much until I had it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Sure. I don’t want games or videos (though I can see how that would be useful while waiting for an EV to charge). I just want Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. Or, failing that, whatever controls are necessary to facilitate an infotainment system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Electromechanical_Supergiant@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How much entertainment do you need while driving? Can't you just plug your phone in for some music? Do you really need a maps app built into your car when you already have one on your phone? I just can't see a reasonable use for an infotainment system that isn't already taken care of perfectly by the device I already have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago In my older car, I have a mount for my phone because it does not have GPS. But it does work just fine for Bluetooth. CarPlay is a lot easier to use. As was Android Auto when I had an Android phone. These also give me greater flexibility with regard to mapping. I can, for example, simply tell my phone to navigate to my wife’s location. (Obviously not a dealbreaker to not have, but convenient!) It can also be really nice to have a side-by-side view of the media player and the maps. I dunno, it’s not like I wouldn’t buy a car that doesn’t have CarPlay, but that car would lose some points in my mind. It’s the kind of thing I didn’t think I’d appreciate as much until I had it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Electromechanical_Supergiant@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How much entertainment do you need while driving? Can't you just plug your phone in for some music? Do you really need a maps app built into your car when you already have one on your phone? I just can't see a reasonable use for an infotainment system that isn't already taken care of perfectly by the device I already have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago In my older car, I have a mount for my phone because it does not have GPS. But it does work just fine for Bluetooth. CarPlay is a lot easier to use. As was Android Auto when I had an Android phone. These also give me greater flexibility with regard to mapping. I can, for example, simply tell my phone to navigate to my wife’s location. (Obviously not a dealbreaker to not have, but convenient!) It can also be really nice to have a side-by-side view of the media player and the maps. I dunno, it’s not like I wouldn’t buy a car that doesn’t have CarPlay, but that car would lose some points in my mind. It’s the kind of thing I didn’t think I’d appreciate as much until I had it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago In my older car, I have a mount for my phone because it does not have GPS. But it does work just fine for Bluetooth. CarPlay is a lot easier to use. As was Android Auto when I had an Android phone. These also give me greater flexibility with regard to mapping. I can, for example, simply tell my phone to navigate to my wife’s location. (Obviously not a dealbreaker to not have, but convenient!) It can also be really nice to have a side-by-side view of the media player and the maps. I dunno, it’s not like I wouldn’t buy a car that doesn’t have CarPlay, but that car would lose some points in my mind. It’s the kind of thing I didn’t think I’d appreciate as much until I had it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) If it's the kind of thing that it's not reasonable to expect that people will stop by the side of the road to do, it should be buttons. The rest can be touch. So for example setting a destination on your navigation interface is fine to do via touch screen, but starting/stopping swipers or changing audio volume is not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Very well put. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd go as far as mounting a full size qwerty keyboard on the steering wheel. Although we'd somehow have to deal with the shrapnel grenade situation as soon as the airbag hits it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago But if I'm gonna go out, having WASD forever embedded in my forehead is kinda metal. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago But if I'm gonna go out, having WASD forever embedded in my forehead is kinda metal. permalink fedilink source parent