▲ 440 ▼ "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming" (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.world 212 comments fedilink hide all child comments (The "Windows" slices of the pies are entirely made up by Baldur's Gate 3, which also runs well over Linux)
[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) well, thanks to Gaben, new games working fine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s why they specified online, because the cancer that is Easy-Anti Cheat has a teeny tiny checkbox saying “allow linux users” that is rarely if ever checked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) dunno, if we're talking about easy anti-cheat, i've played insurgency: sandstorm, war thunder and hunt: showdown. Not a lot of games, but none of them had any issues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Halo MCC was fixed too and now that works without issues online. It is good fun. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Plenty of games do check it! Which is why it’s excessively frustrating when other games consciously choose not to. There were a few hiccups initially but now as far as I’m aware it’s literally just the checkbox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neatchee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I really hate this "it's just a checkbox* narrative. It's bullshit. EAC functions very differently on Linux and it is ridiculous to assume that "it says EAC is on" = "game is secure" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/epic-games-announce-full-easy-anti-cheat-for-linux-including-wine-a-proton/ But go off king permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neatchee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago [The documentation] says how developers need to "test and activate client module updates for Linux regularly in addition to Windows". But go off king permalink fedilink source parent [–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that’s not the whole story Enabling Linux support does inherently allow more attack vectors that need to be secured that don’t need to be if it’s windows only. Linux works against these kinds of anticheats, as they’re working to get the most information out of the system as possible to prevent 3rd party programs from being run. This is a major design consideration in Linux not present in windows, so there is considerable extra work that has to be done, on top of already being much less effective on Linux than they are on windows. permalink fedilink source parent [+] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Xer0@lemmy.ml -23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) No. Https://protondb.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Xer0@lemmy.ml -14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=releaseDate permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago (1 child) That’s why they specified online, because the cancer that is Easy-Anti Cheat has a teeny tiny checkbox saying “allow linux users” that is rarely if ever checked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) dunno, if we're talking about easy anti-cheat, i've played insurgency: sandstorm, war thunder and hunt: showdown. Not a lot of games, but none of them had any issues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Halo MCC was fixed too and now that works without issues online. It is good fun. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Plenty of games do check it! Which is why it’s excessively frustrating when other games consciously choose not to. There were a few hiccups initially but now as far as I’m aware it’s literally just the checkbox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neatchee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I really hate this "it's just a checkbox* narrative. It's bullshit. EAC functions very differently on Linux and it is ridiculous to assume that "it says EAC is on" = "game is secure" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/epic-games-announce-full-easy-anti-cheat-for-linux-including-wine-a-proton/ But go off king permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neatchee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago [The documentation] says how developers need to "test and activate client module updates for Linux regularly in addition to Windows". But go off king permalink fedilink source parent [–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that’s not the whole story Enabling Linux support does inherently allow more attack vectors that need to be secured that don’t need to be if it’s windows only. Linux works against these kinds of anticheats, as they’re working to get the most information out of the system as possible to prevent 3rd party programs from being run. This is a major design consideration in Linux not present in windows, so there is considerable extra work that has to be done, on top of already being much less effective on Linux than they are on windows. permalink fedilink source parent [+] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children) dunno, if we're talking about easy anti-cheat, i've played insurgency: sandstorm, war thunder and hunt: showdown. Not a lot of games, but none of them had any issues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Halo MCC was fixed too and now that works without issues online. It is good fun. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Plenty of games do check it! Which is why it’s excessively frustrating when other games consciously choose not to. There were a few hiccups initially but now as far as I’m aware it’s literally just the checkbox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neatchee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I really hate this "it's just a checkbox* narrative. It's bullshit. EAC functions very differently on Linux and it is ridiculous to assume that "it says EAC is on" = "game is secure" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/epic-games-announce-full-easy-anti-cheat-for-linux-including-wine-a-proton/ But go off king permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neatchee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago [The documentation] says how developers need to "test and activate client module updates for Linux regularly in addition to Windows". But go off king permalink fedilink source parent [–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that’s not the whole story Enabling Linux support does inherently allow more attack vectors that need to be secured that don’t need to be if it’s windows only. Linux works against these kinds of anticheats, as they’re working to get the most information out of the system as possible to prevent 3rd party programs from being run. This is a major design consideration in Linux not present in windows, so there is considerable extra work that has to be done, on top of already being much less effective on Linux than they are on windows. permalink fedilink source parent [+] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Halo MCC was fixed too and now that works without issues online. It is good fun. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Plenty of games do check it! Which is why it’s excessively frustrating when other games consciously choose not to. There were a few hiccups initially but now as far as I’m aware it’s literally just the checkbox. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] neatchee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I really hate this "it's just a checkbox* narrative. It's bullshit. EAC functions very differently on Linux and it is ridiculous to assume that "it says EAC is on" = "game is secure" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/epic-games-announce-full-easy-anti-cheat-for-linux-including-wine-a-proton/ But go off king permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neatchee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago [The documentation] says how developers need to "test and activate client module updates for Linux regularly in addition to Windows". But go off king permalink fedilink source parent [–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that’s not the whole story Enabling Linux support does inherently allow more attack vectors that need to be secured that don’t need to be if it’s windows only. Linux works against these kinds of anticheats, as they’re working to get the most information out of the system as possible to prevent 3rd party programs from being run. This is a major design consideration in Linux not present in windows, so there is considerable extra work that has to be done, on top of already being much less effective on Linux than they are on windows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I really hate this "it's just a checkbox* narrative. It's bullshit. EAC functions very differently on Linux and it is ridiculous to assume that "it says EAC is on" = "game is secure" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/epic-games-announce-full-easy-anti-cheat-for-linux-including-wine-a-proton/ But go off king permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neatchee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago [The documentation] says how developers need to "test and activate client module updates for Linux regularly in addition to Windows". But go off king permalink fedilink source parent [–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that’s not the whole story Enabling Linux support does inherently allow more attack vectors that need to be secured that don’t need to be if it’s windows only. Linux works against these kinds of anticheats, as they’re working to get the most information out of the system as possible to prevent 3rd party programs from being run. This is a major design consideration in Linux not present in windows, so there is considerable extra work that has to be done, on top of already being much less effective on Linux than they are on windows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/epic-games-announce-full-easy-anti-cheat-for-linux-including-wine-a-proton/ But go off king permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] neatchee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago [The documentation] says how developers need to "test and activate client module updates for Linux regularly in addition to Windows". But go off king permalink fedilink source parent [–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that’s not the whole story Enabling Linux support does inherently allow more attack vectors that need to be secured that don’t need to be if it’s windows only. Linux works against these kinds of anticheats, as they’re working to get the most information out of the system as possible to prevent 3rd party programs from being run. This is a major design consideration in Linux not present in windows, so there is considerable extra work that has to be done, on top of already being much less effective on Linux than they are on windows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago [The documentation] says how developers need to "test and activate client module updates for Linux regularly in addition to Windows". But go off king permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Yeah, that’s not the whole story Enabling Linux support does inherently allow more attack vectors that need to be secured that don’t need to be if it’s windows only. Linux works against these kinds of anticheats, as they’re working to get the most information out of the system as possible to prevent 3rd party programs from being run. This is a major design consideration in Linux not present in windows, so there is considerable extra work that has to be done, on top of already being much less effective on Linux than they are on windows. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Xer0@lemmy.ml -23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) No. Https://protondb.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Xer0@lemmy.ml -14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] CheesyFox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=releaseDate permalink fedilink source parent
[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) No. Https://protondb.com permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Xer0@lemmy.ml -14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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