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They don't understand. We built these machines so that we can work more. (startrek.website)
submitted 2 years ago by [M] to c/memes@lemmy.world
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[–] 140 points 2 years ago (12 children)

This is what I mention when I'm covertly pushing "radical" ideas such as 4 day work weeks. We have all of these technological advancements - Why can't the workers see some of those benefits instead of them being funneled to the top in the form of extra profits?

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  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The machine must be fed.

    The goal was never leisure. The goal was always profit. And so we feed the profit machine, and when we run out of resources, we'll start throwing in sacrifices.

    Because the machine must be fed.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Stop pushing the idea of four day work weeks. Begin promoting the idea of three day weekends.

    I bet you'll start getting different responses.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    My organisation does 4 day work weeks. But we chain our staff so only some of us have a 3 day weekend. My day off is usually either Tuesday or Wednesday (by choice, I could take Monday if I wanted).

    It works for me because I have a normal weekend with my friends and family to do weekend stuff, and then my day off doesn't really feel like a true weekend so I use it to catch up on errands, housework, medical appointments, etc. Meaning unlike most of my peers who have to do it all on the weekend, my real weekend is pure fun. I don't do any serious housework on my weekend, I have a weekday where I work on myself and my home.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Honestly I just like the idea of it because if someone decides they really want to grind for a bit they can now take up a second up to full time job without worrying about most of the shit employers will give you for that.

    What I think should be the standard is a "full time" job being 18 hours in a week of work time, including commuting, with any time above every additional multiple of 18 immediately paying out as 2.5x the pay that's been earned so far. Doesn't just give people their free time back in spades, it also significantly discourages extorting workers for overtime instead of staffing adequately because now it's literally more expensive to pay out any overtime at all than it would have been to just hire the additional worker at equal pay, and that effect ramps up exponentially too, by the time you're at the soul grind of a 40 hour week you've already tapped your employer so hard it would have been cheaper to hire 5 additional workers than it was to make you work that 40 hour week.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Try 30 hour week. It's superior to 4 "days" of random length. I had a couple of Philippines based contractors on my team who had 4 day weeks, but they still needed to work 40 hours

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago*

    We almost had a 4 day work week implemented at my job, but some Big Brain said "NO! We need to be shipping 5 days a week!"

    90% of the time we don't ship things out on Friday...

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