▲ 158 ▼ Politically engaged Redditors tend to be more toxic, even in non-political subreddits (www.psypost.org) submitted 2 years ago by Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world to c/reddit@lemmy.world 45 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 38 points 2 years ago (2 children) A bit of nuance the headline misses: a striking correlation between users’ engagement in partisan subreddits and the overall toxicity in their comments You can be politically engaged without treating politics as a knock-about blood-sport. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago It's also important to look at those positions. Like, abortion. To some people, aborting a 3 week old fetus is murder. Because their religion goes even further and says a guy jacking off is mass murder because that "seed" should only be used for heterosexual sex that would result in a child. Which makes them incredibly hypocritical, but they're used to that To others it's just a clump of cells with zero brain activity growing in a women's body and she decides if she wants to let it grow. Both sides see the other as evil and obviously wrong. Which is why it's been a "wedge issue" for decades. Both parties can cater to corporations and the wealthy, and disagree on stuff like this that makes it so a large segment of the population never agrees with the other on who to vote for, and both parties can agree on stuff like how little taxes the wealthy have to pay while still presenting themselves as opposites. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is, however, very important to note that when one side starts treating politics like it IS blood sport (I.e. populism), it’s genuinely difficult to push things in a positive direction by taking the “high road”. More specifically, the paradox of tolerance is very much a factor here. Regressive and reactionary groups absolutely abuse the system as it exists today with the intent of fully corrupting and controlling it in the future. Understand what bad-faith arguments look like, and the ways that they are often presented as “reasonable discourse”. When you see someone engaging in such disingenuous tactics online, consider dropping some bait to see whether or not they show more of their bad-faith hand; if they do, go (rhetorical) weapons free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago There's a game series I play that just had a new version come out. It's a silly puzzle game that you can just waste time with while doing something else. The author does a little 'story mode' and this time they went through how they're getting older and are starting to think of end of life stuff. I'm in a similar headspace myself really, though they're a decade or so ahead of me. It ends with something about maybe that person with different political opinions was just born in a different place than you and you should take the time to listen to them. I'm like, bruh... yeah, sure, that was okay back in the 90s. Have you looked at our current political space? Seriously, read the room I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're just privileged and the things going on these days don't effect them personally so they just have no idea what the hell they're talking about. Game is still good and the best one they've made so far, but damn was the end of that piece tone deaf af. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago It's also important to look at those positions. Like, abortion. To some people, aborting a 3 week old fetus is murder. Because their religion goes even further and says a guy jacking off is mass murder because that "seed" should only be used for heterosexual sex that would result in a child. Which makes them incredibly hypocritical, but they're used to that To others it's just a clump of cells with zero brain activity growing in a women's body and she decides if she wants to let it grow. Both sides see the other as evil and obviously wrong. Which is why it's been a "wedge issue" for decades. Both parties can cater to corporations and the wealthy, and disagree on stuff like this that makes it so a large segment of the population never agrees with the other on who to vote for, and both parties can agree on stuff like how little taxes the wealthy have to pay while still presenting themselves as opposites. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) It is, however, very important to note that when one side starts treating politics like it IS blood sport (I.e. populism), it’s genuinely difficult to push things in a positive direction by taking the “high road”. More specifically, the paradox of tolerance is very much a factor here. Regressive and reactionary groups absolutely abuse the system as it exists today with the intent of fully corrupting and controlling it in the future. Understand what bad-faith arguments look like, and the ways that they are often presented as “reasonable discourse”. When you see someone engaging in such disingenuous tactics online, consider dropping some bait to see whether or not they show more of their bad-faith hand; if they do, go (rhetorical) weapons free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago There's a game series I play that just had a new version come out. It's a silly puzzle game that you can just waste time with while doing something else. The author does a little 'story mode' and this time they went through how they're getting older and are starting to think of end of life stuff. I'm in a similar headspace myself really, though they're a decade or so ahead of me. It ends with something about maybe that person with different political opinions was just born in a different place than you and you should take the time to listen to them. I'm like, bruh... yeah, sure, that was okay back in the 90s. Have you looked at our current political space? Seriously, read the room I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're just privileged and the things going on these days don't effect them personally so they just have no idea what the hell they're talking about. Game is still good and the best one they've made so far, but damn was the end of that piece tone deaf af. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago There's a game series I play that just had a new version come out. It's a silly puzzle game that you can just waste time with while doing something else. The author does a little 'story mode' and this time they went through how they're getting older and are starting to think of end of life stuff. I'm in a similar headspace myself really, though they're a decade or so ahead of me. It ends with something about maybe that person with different political opinions was just born in a different place than you and you should take the time to listen to them. I'm like, bruh... yeah, sure, that was okay back in the 90s. Have you looked at our current political space? Seriously, read the room I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're just privileged and the things going on these days don't effect them personally so they just have no idea what the hell they're talking about. Game is still good and the best one they've made so far, but damn was the end of that piece tone deaf af. permalink fedilink source parent