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Defederate lemmynsfw.com? (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world
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The admins on lemmynsfw.com have decided to allow "non-IRL loli", i.e. drawn porn involving children/teenagers. (Post: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29633).

Irrelevant of the moral issues that this poses, such content is illegal in many countries (e.g the UK). Continuing to federate with lemmynsfw.com will put users at risk of significant legal repercussions.

Please would the admins consider defederating unless lemmynsfw change their policy.

UPDATE: The lemmynsfw admins posted an clarification here: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29826. My original argument for defederating doesn't stand any more.

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[–] 30 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children)

Edit: They've made an update claiming it was bad English. https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29826 - I think they should take a harder line but I will have to continue monitoring it to decide if I want to keep federating with them. Not a good look tho.

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God damnit, I was glad there was an NSFW instance WHY did they have to go do some shit like this

Welp, as an instance admin I'm probably gonna have to defed them.

Those admins are fools. They say they're not into it, but don't want to prevent others from it.

Well guess what, it's like the Nazi bar thing. You can't just let them be. They're intolerable to most people so by not banning them your other customers will leave. Congratulations, you now run a Nazi bar.

I foresee most users on lemmynsfw leaving, and it basically just becoming a pedo site.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I don't know man i think Nazi were allowed to go crazy because most and/or influential people found it beneficial in the time and place. It didn't happened everywhere. Just as communism etc.

    Not that it matters with banning NSFW content. I've never got why would people access that via forum anyway.
    But i can imagine banning news for posting from sources that are not inline with admins visions or banning science and technology community for being very religious and vice versa if you know what i mean.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    I don’t know man i think Nazi were allowed to go crazy because most and/or influential people found it beneficial in the time and place.

    I wasn't making a statement about the spread of fascism across a society.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Is on internet...

    Doesn't know the internets rule 34

    Gets upset...

    Man, if it exists there is porn of it and the nsfw instances have no reason to moderate it away unless it's illegal where they are hosted (lolli isn't in most countries)

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

    Doesn’t know the internets rule 34

    Gets upset…

    I know it. I have no problem with 99% of it. But if it involves children, real or not, I want nothing to do with it. I don't want users who want that on my instance. I don't want that content touching my servers.

    have no reason to moderate it away unless it’s illegal where they are hosted (lolli isn’t in most countries)

    It is in some, and in any case just because it might be legal doesn't mean it's okay.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I know it. I have no problem with 99% of it. But if it involves children, real or not, I want nothing to do with it. I don't want users who want that on my instance. I don't want that content touching my servers.

    Do as you like with your instance. That's totally fine.

    It is in some, and in any case just because it mount be legal doesn't mean it's okay.

    Nobody needs moral police. I don't want to see it, but i just don't give a fuck unless someone is actually harmed by it. I just blocked the things i don't want to see.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    Nobody needs moral police. I don’t want to see it

    And as an admin of an instance, if I don't block it, and one single user subscribes to it, it will appear on the "All" feed for all of my users.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    just because it might be legal doesn’t mean it’s okay.

    And WHO decides what's ok? This is where you are wrong. If it's legal then it's ok to have it. I don't have to like it, but just as I only browsed my own frontpage on reddit with subscribed subreddits in a few days I will have all the communities I need or want and just prowse that exclusively. What someone is posting or liking on communities I do not see is irrelvant to me, obviously, as long as it's legal.

    There is NO room for moral policing here.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    That's cool and all, but if one user on my instance subscribes to some pedo community that I don't block it will show up in the "All" feed of my instance. For all users.

    So me, I decide. If you want an instance that allows pedo crap go find a different one.

    I don't generally ban anything that's not illegal, but pedophilia and adjacent topics is one such exception.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Pedophelia IS illegal and has no place on this platform. Problem is, YOU want to decide for all of us what legal content should not be. And if you do not realize the error of that way of thinking then in my opinion you are no better than a boik burner.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    All of you? You're not in my instance. I don't affect you. If you want to go look at sexual drawings of children don't join my instance.

    I'm fine with that. This is an open statement that any such person should avoid my instance. You're completely free to make or join one that allows such things.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I do not want to look at any type of nsfw content myself, but I also am not arrogant enough to lay down the law for others. You joined a federated platform, your isolisionist thinking belongs to a private forum. This is clearly not the social space for you, and I hope your type finds a nice lityle safespace somwhere to exist.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    You joined a federated platform, your isolisionist thinking belongs to a private forum. This is clearly not the social space for you

    Well see that's the beauty of federation. I can just defederate from the instances that allow sexual depictions of children. And still participate with everyone else. Works for me. I don't feel isolated at all.

    And anyway, it's kinda funny for you to say "This is clearly not the social space for you" when you joined lemmy.world, who has already defederated an instance (burggit) for allowing loli crap. Looks like you joined the wrong social space.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Drawn CSAM is illegal in Australia, Canada, and most of Europe, as well as several states in the US. People have been prosecuted successfully for possessing loli in the US and UK. It's not as unusual as you think.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    hey friend have you considered that maybe we shouldn't be adhering to archaic and unenforced "rules" made by christofash pedophiles on a mass shooting message board because of "DAE Le Rule 34? XD"

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