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US vetoes UN resolution calling for Gaza ceasefire (www.semafor.com)
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The U.S. vetoed a UN Security Council resolution Friday calling for a ceasefire to the fighting in Gaza.

The U.S. and Israel have opposed calls for a ceasefire, saying it would strengthen Hamas.

The vote was delayed for several hours over worries the U.S. would veto it. Diplomats from several Arab nations met with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken to try to convince the U.S. to abstain from voting.

As a permanent member of the council, the U.S. has veto power, and had signaled it planned to block the resolution. The U.K. abstained from the vote, while the 13 other members of the council voted for it.

read more: https://www.semafor.com/article/12/08/2023/un-security-council-votes-on-gaza-ceasefire-resolution-amid-israel-hamas-conflict

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[–] 38 points 2 years ago (34 children)

Genocide Joe is insatiable.

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  • [+] -13 points 2 years ago (26 children)

    Trump would be 10x worse, or is that what you had in mind?

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago* (18 children)

    Both options would have been collosal twats about this. It's still valid to call the person currently being a twat about it a twat.

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  • [+] -13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Sure, but someone repeating Trump’s insults is also a twat.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    Did Trump actually say? That's funny considering he'd do the same. I have been saying it since the first US veto back in October, I even thought I came up with it. It is true and has a nice ring to it.

    The real question is why is the US run by racist genocidal geriatrics from both parties? Fix your democracy before trying to export it to the Middle East.

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  • [+] -16 points 2 years ago (14 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    The Afghanistan pullout was planned during the Trump admin, mind you, Biden basically just didn't back out of it. Not saying it wasn't a good thing, but using it as a comparison against the administration that planned it is a bit disingenuous.

    And the comparison of drone strikes under Obama is as much a Trumpism as "Genocide Joe", so using it as a defense against using Trumpisms is also disingenuous.

    Not saying Biden isn't a far sight better than Trump or anything else coming from the conservative camps, but he's no less of a warhawk at this point.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I'm glad the US lost in Afghanistan and I'm hopeful it loses in Palestine/Middle East too.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Bet you love that the US wasted 2.4 trillion dollars and 20 years with nothing to show for it. If the US wanted to help Afghan women, why was it bombing them? There are other, more productive ways to help.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I agree that Biden isn't really much less of a warhawk, but the point I'm making is that there's probably been if anything slightly less genocide by the US under Biden than other presidents, which just makes the nickname more ridiculous.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's not that he's much less of a warhawk, he's no less of a warhawk.

    Yes, the nickname is dumb, but that's mostly because it's a Trumpism, not that it doesn't have a tinge of accuracy to it.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago

    I dunno, I still think there's a valid point to it. Previous presidents increased the amount of genocide, they continued and added to previous actions, Biden has done things to decrease it.

    Like, if you were to plot genocide on a logarithmic scale, the slope would be lesser under Biden.

    Like, if inflation has been really high, but then becomes a bit less high.

    It's objectively better. Still definitely not good, but not as bad as before, but also still not getting better quickly enough.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    It is not a Trumpism. I'm from Saudi Arabia, it is an apt description for the most genocidal maniac leader of the 21st century. Trump possibly being worse is just a condemnation of the USA.

    Also, past US president were war criminals who should have faced trial for their war crimes, but Joe is escalating it to an unprecedented genocide.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I’m from Saudi Arabia

    Yemen, RSF, Omar al-Bashir, Sudan, Darfur, etc.

    the most genocidal maniac leader of the 21st century.

    Netanyahu is less genocidal than Biden?

    Meanwhile:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effacer_le_tableau

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_genocide

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    I am aligned with the Axis of Resistance. Saudi Arabia is only my country of citizenship. But don’t misunderstand this to be an invitation for a colour revolution in my country.

    Biden is supporting Netanyahu unconditionally. Biden could at least vote for a ceasefire instead of vetoing it. Instead he is sending Netanyahu more weapons to enable the genocide. This is Biden’s genocide as much as Netanyahu’s.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    What's 10x worse than a genocide?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (2 children)

    10x genocide?

    He would let the Palestinian people die and start wars with other countries to distract the rest of us

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Biden is already not only letting thousands of Palestinians die but he is sending Israel the weapons to kill them with.

    Also Biden is already dragging the US into further wars in my region. If Trump was going to start new wars he would have already done so. People forget that Biden played a role in Bush’s invasion of Iraq and Obama’s drone strikes on hospitals.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    start wars with other countries to distract the rest of us

    yeah, biden would NEVER do that

    biden would NEVER expand nato, he would also NEVER block negotiations in ukraine, just like he would NEVER keep escalating tensions with china over taiwan

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  • [+] -19 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Ah yes, I am sure Trump wouldn’t do the same thing as well 🙄

    The US will always back Israel because the US sees military strategic value against the Middle East with Israel, namely Iran. It also helps that Israel exports a lot of medical equipment to the US as well, so financially we have a good relationship with them there as well.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    The US will always support genocidal maniacs is not a valid argument, and neither is that Trump is as bad.

    I genuinely can't understand why you are defending a genocide. This is bad for the US's international standing. It hurts the US-led coalition against Russia. Even if you don't care or humanize Palestinians, you should at least pretend to care about long term US interests at home and abroad.

    "Rush by west to back Israel erodes developing countries’ support for Ukraine" https://archive.ph/ctAhD

    “We have definitely lost the battle in the Global South,” said one senior G7 diplomat. “All the work we have done with the Global South . [over Ukraine] has been lost . . . Forget about rules, forget about world order. They won’t ever listen to us again.”

    Many developing countries have traditionally supported the Palestinian cause, seeing it through the prism of self-determination and a push against the global dominance of the US, Israel’s most important backer.

    “What we said about Ukraine has to apply to Gaza. Otherwise we lose all our credibility,” the senior G7 diplomat added. “The Brazilians, the South Africans, the Indonesians: why should they ever believe what we say about human rights?”

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  • [+] -11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Who said I was defending it? What did I say that would imply that?

    My post is explaining why this would have happened regardless of who was in charge in response to the honestly stupid “gEnOcIdEr JoE” post. If you ask me, this shouldn’t even be happening in the first place, and I personally don’t advocate for war and/or genocide nor condone such barbaric actions because of the more harmful long-term consequences such things have on people from both sides of the conflict. We should have agreed to the ceasefire, and am disappointed we veto’d it.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    If the current resident president was Trump, people would have called him Genocide Don and rightfully so. The most shameful thing any president could do is allow a genocide to happen when he has the full power to stop it.

    I am glad you agree that the US vetoing the ceasefire multiple times is wrong and makes it complicit in the crimes, not to mention all the bombs and financial aid they are sending to Israel.

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