▲ 206 ▼ Discord is on a quest to become a better messaging app (www.theverge.com) submitted 2 years ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world 217 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (15 children) Bandwidth isn't free, they gotta make money somehow permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children) Funny how when someone brings this up for a streaming service it's all "the ads are intrusive", "I don't want to pay this company". Etc. But when it's discord all the sudden "they gotta pay for bandwidth". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 27 points 2 years ago (7 children) Steaming services don't give it to you for free with the only ads being for the premium version of their service that you don't really need.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (6 children) So what you're saying is that since their ads are for the product I am using the free version of, I shouldn't get irritated about them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (5 children) You can feel however which way you want. But, comparing it to paid services isn't fair.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) It is a paid service though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) In what world is it paid? I've used it for years and never gave them a dime. I decided to buy Nitro in the last year so that I can support the network. But, I was never held back from doing what I wanted to do because I didn't have nitro. As someone who has hosted Team Speak servers. That shit isn't free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) If they're asking you to pay a subscription then they have a paid tier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having a paid tier and being a "paid service" aren't the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago It seems like you don't maybe know what you're talking about. If the service is available for free but there is a paid tier (like Twitch) then that's still a paid tier. Just because it's not providing the exact same features for the payment means nothing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think the difference is that when you pay discord, they stop advertising to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There are streaming services that I pay for that have stopped advertising to me. Nitro makes it seem like I have notifications that I then have to hunt down in the app only to find that it's them suggesting I buy a subscription. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago They also stop advertising to you if you install a plugin that disables the ads, shame they're against TOS, not like there isnt many people using them anyways permalink fedilink source parent [–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because you are still paying the streaming service, and then they serve you ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nope. They have a free model that is ads supported and a paid model that is not and doesn't have ads. That's my point. If the nitro ad was just a banner at the bottom of the app that would be one thing. But instead it shows up randomly as a notification like it's a message. That's garbage. permalink fedilink source parent [–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago P2P is the answer, Matrix has been doing this for a few years permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children) Funny how when someone brings this up for a streaming service it's all "the ads are intrusive", "I don't want to pay this company". Etc. But when it's discord all the sudden "they gotta pay for bandwidth". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 27 points 2 years ago (7 children) Steaming services don't give it to you for free with the only ads being for the premium version of their service that you don't really need.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (6 children) So what you're saying is that since their ads are for the product I am using the free version of, I shouldn't get irritated about them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (5 children) You can feel however which way you want. But, comparing it to paid services isn't fair.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) It is a paid service though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) In what world is it paid? I've used it for years and never gave them a dime. I decided to buy Nitro in the last year so that I can support the network. But, I was never held back from doing what I wanted to do because I didn't have nitro. As someone who has hosted Team Speak servers. That shit isn't free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) If they're asking you to pay a subscription then they have a paid tier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having a paid tier and being a "paid service" aren't the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago It seems like you don't maybe know what you're talking about. If the service is available for free but there is a paid tier (like Twitch) then that's still a paid tier. Just because it's not providing the exact same features for the payment means nothing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think the difference is that when you pay discord, they stop advertising to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There are streaming services that I pay for that have stopped advertising to me. Nitro makes it seem like I have notifications that I then have to hunt down in the app only to find that it's them suggesting I buy a subscription. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago They also stop advertising to you if you install a plugin that disables the ads, shame they're against TOS, not like there isnt many people using them anyways permalink fedilink source parent [–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because you are still paying the streaming service, and then they serve you ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nope. They have a free model that is ads supported and a paid model that is not and doesn't have ads. That's my point. If the nitro ad was just a banner at the bottom of the app that would be one thing. But instead it shows up randomly as a notification like it's a message. That's garbage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambda@programming.dev 27 points 2 years ago (7 children) Steaming services don't give it to you for free with the only ads being for the premium version of their service that you don't really need.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (6 children) So what you're saying is that since their ads are for the product I am using the free version of, I shouldn't get irritated about them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (5 children) You can feel however which way you want. But, comparing it to paid services isn't fair.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) It is a paid service though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) In what world is it paid? I've used it for years and never gave them a dime. I decided to buy Nitro in the last year so that I can support the network. But, I was never held back from doing what I wanted to do because I didn't have nitro. As someone who has hosted Team Speak servers. That shit isn't free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) If they're asking you to pay a subscription then they have a paid tier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having a paid tier and being a "paid service" aren't the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago It seems like you don't maybe know what you're talking about. If the service is available for free but there is a paid tier (like Twitch) then that's still a paid tier. Just because it's not providing the exact same features for the payment means nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (6 children) So what you're saying is that since their ads are for the product I am using the free version of, I shouldn't get irritated about them? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (5 children) You can feel however which way you want. But, comparing it to paid services isn't fair.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) It is a paid service though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) In what world is it paid? I've used it for years and never gave them a dime. I decided to buy Nitro in the last year so that I can support the network. But, I was never held back from doing what I wanted to do because I didn't have nitro. As someone who has hosted Team Speak servers. That shit isn't free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) If they're asking you to pay a subscription then they have a paid tier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having a paid tier and being a "paid service" aren't the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago It seems like you don't maybe know what you're talking about. If the service is available for free but there is a paid tier (like Twitch) then that's still a paid tier. Just because it's not providing the exact same features for the payment means nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambda@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago (5 children) You can feel however which way you want. But, comparing it to paid services isn't fair.. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) It is a paid service though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) In what world is it paid? I've used it for years and never gave them a dime. I decided to buy Nitro in the last year so that I can support the network. But, I was never held back from doing what I wanted to do because I didn't have nitro. As someone who has hosted Team Speak servers. That shit isn't free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) If they're asking you to pay a subscription then they have a paid tier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having a paid tier and being a "paid service" aren't the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago It seems like you don't maybe know what you're talking about. If the service is available for free but there is a paid tier (like Twitch) then that's still a paid tier. Just because it's not providing the exact same features for the payment means nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (4 children) It is a paid service though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) In what world is it paid? I've used it for years and never gave them a dime. I decided to buy Nitro in the last year so that I can support the network. But, I was never held back from doing what I wanted to do because I didn't have nitro. As someone who has hosted Team Speak servers. That shit isn't free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) If they're asking you to pay a subscription then they have a paid tier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having a paid tier and being a "paid service" aren't the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago It seems like you don't maybe know what you're talking about. If the service is available for free but there is a paid tier (like Twitch) then that's still a paid tier. Just because it's not providing the exact same features for the payment means nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) In what world is it paid? I've used it for years and never gave them a dime. I decided to buy Nitro in the last year so that I can support the network. But, I was never held back from doing what I wanted to do because I didn't have nitro. As someone who has hosted Team Speak servers. That shit isn't free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) If they're asking you to pay a subscription then they have a paid tier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having a paid tier and being a "paid service" aren't the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago It seems like you don't maybe know what you're talking about. If the service is available for free but there is a paid tier (like Twitch) then that's still a paid tier. Just because it's not providing the exact same features for the payment means nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) If they're asking you to pay a subscription then they have a paid tier. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having a paid tier and being a "paid service" aren't the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago It seems like you don't maybe know what you're talking about. If the service is available for free but there is a paid tier (like Twitch) then that's still a paid tier. Just because it's not providing the exact same features for the payment means nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambda@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Having a paid tier and being a "paid service" aren't the same thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago It seems like you don't maybe know what you're talking about. If the service is available for free but there is a paid tier (like Twitch) then that's still a paid tier. Just because it's not providing the exact same features for the payment means nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago It seems like you don't maybe know what you're talking about. If the service is available for free but there is a paid tier (like Twitch) then that's still a paid tier. Just because it's not providing the exact same features for the payment means nothing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think the difference is that when you pay discord, they stop advertising to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There are streaming services that I pay for that have stopped advertising to me. Nitro makes it seem like I have notifications that I then have to hunt down in the app only to find that it's them suggesting I buy a subscription. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago They also stop advertising to you if you install a plugin that disables the ads, shame they're against TOS, not like there isnt many people using them anyways permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago There are streaming services that I pay for that have stopped advertising to me. Nitro makes it seem like I have notifications that I then have to hunt down in the app only to find that it's them suggesting I buy a subscription. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago They also stop advertising to you if you install a plugin that disables the ads, shame they're against TOS, not like there isnt many people using them anyways permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Because you are still paying the streaming service, and then they serve you ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nope. They have a free model that is ads supported and a paid model that is not and doesn't have ads. That's my point. If the nitro ad was just a banner at the bottom of the app that would be one thing. But instead it shows up randomly as a notification like it's a message. That's garbage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Nope. They have a free model that is ads supported and a paid model that is not and doesn't have ads. That's my point. If the nitro ad was just a banner at the bottom of the app that would be one thing. But instead it shows up randomly as a notification like it's a message. That's garbage. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago P2P is the answer, Matrix has been doing this for a few years permalink fedilink source parent