▲ 246 ▼ Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive (signal.org) submitted 2 years ago* by fer0n@lemm.ee to c/technology@beehaw.org 112 comments fedilink hide all child comments We estimate that by 2025, Signal will require approximately $50 million dollars a year to operate—and this is very lean compared to other popular messaging apps that don’t respect your privacy.
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago If you're using it for personal correspondence with people you know and trust, that's probably fine. However, a secure and private communications platform should support more extreme use cases as well. If you're a journalist, for example, you might need to communicate with people you do not know or trust. You could realistically be talking to someone who wants to kill you, or who is being monitored by people who want to kill you, particularly if you are covering high-profile political issues or working with whistleblowers (or are yourself a whistleblower). Even revealing information as broad as what city you're in (which would be revealed by your IP address) could be a risk to your physical safety. Even though I do not personally face such high-level threats in my life, I feel better using services that allow for the possibility. Privacy is a habit, and who knows what tomorrow might bring? permalink fedilink source parent [–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago A MitM sniffer would be able to see the source and destination IP addresses, not just the person you're chatting with. Even if the data is encrypted, P2P is still vulnerable to a layer 3 attack. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zworf@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Will the same apply if you're in a lot of open group chats though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 years ago If you're using it for personal correspondence with people you know and trust, that's probably fine. However, a secure and private communications platform should support more extreme use cases as well. If you're a journalist, for example, you might need to communicate with people you do not know or trust. You could realistically be talking to someone who wants to kill you, or who is being monitored by people who want to kill you, particularly if you are covering high-profile political issues or working with whistleblowers (or are yourself a whistleblower). Even revealing information as broad as what city you're in (which would be revealed by your IP address) could be a risk to your physical safety. Even though I do not personally face such high-level threats in my life, I feel better using services that allow for the possibility. Privacy is a habit, and who knows what tomorrow might bring? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago A MitM sniffer would be able to see the source and destination IP addresses, not just the person you're chatting with. Even if the data is encrypted, P2P is still vulnerable to a layer 3 attack. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zworf@beehaw.org 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Will the same apply if you're in a lot of open group chats though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent