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A storefront for robots: The SEO arms race has left Google and the web drowning in garbage text, with customers and businesses flailing to find each other. (www.theverge.com)
submitted 3 years ago by [M] to c/technology@beehaw.org
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[–] 45 points 3 years ago (6 children)

I think Google peaked about 6-8 years ago now and then started slipping at an ever accelerating rate.

It’s almost useless for me when searching anything remotely technical or otherwise niche.

I almost consistently need to go to the second page of results now, something I don’t remember doing since like 2009.

I find Bing acceptable. Brave search works well. But I’m actually using Kagi now since I’m hoping their paid model will actually mean I’m not the product.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I use Kagi too and it's great, but I think we will move more and more to chatgpt-ish search engines in a year or two.

    I imagine they will attempt to put ads in those too.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    AI starting out so corporate friendly is a really bad sign imo. Early internet was the wild west (good and bad) but it took time for money to tame it. AI feels like it's coming out of the gate pre-tamed by corporations. Not looking forward to that era.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Brave search works well.

    Does brave index data on it's own or is it pulled from Google/Bing?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago*

    They do have their own crawler and I believe supplement from bing only when necessary. Something like 98% of results are from their own index across all users. They actually have a breakdown for every search.

    I think they actually have the largest independent index outside of Google/Bing right now.

    Others that exclusively use their own index are:

    Mojeek (results aren’t great)
    Kagi (result are pretty good imo)

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