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Anatoly Karlin @powerfultakes

Replying to @RichardHanania

I'm against legalizing bestiality because the animal consent problem hasn't been solved, but probably actually will be quite soon thanks to Al (at least for the higher animals with complex languages). So why not wait a few more years. I don't see disgust as a good reason. It was an evolutionary adaptation of the agricultural era against the spread of zoonotic illnesses, but technology will soon make that entirely irrelevant as well.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Knowing just a smidgeon about how the statistical parrots work, I wonder were they will get the dataset for the animal languages.

This reminds me, I read an article in Nature about teaching dogs to read. Now, this was a 19th century article in a 19th century Nature, so it described how the author had written "food" on a note and placed it on the food bowl and placed a blank note on an empty bowl and eventually gotten his dog to fetch the note that had "food" written on it. Alas, due to unforeseen circumstances, it was hard to expand into more advanced literature.

So where to get the dataset? Nevermind, Magical AI to the rescue!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

It reminds me of the classic story of the guy who trained his mule to subsist without eating. He trained it by giving it less and less food every day,but just when it was about ready to go without food,the stupid animal died.

Science can be frustrating sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's cool! Conversations will be depressing as fuck though.

"Hey whale how's it going?"

"Umm weird, you can talk. Hey will you please stop killing us?"

"No can do whalearino, only a tiny handful of us think we shouldn't kill other animals"

"oh... ok... Do you think you could stop throwing garbage in our home then? "

"hahaha Whaley old pal you crack me up "

"Sonar? "

"Not on the table old chum, now go dash yourself against that beach over there, I've got an ocean floor to map!"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thinking killing animals we don't sustainably farm for food is bad is pretty uncontroversial

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Thinking it's bad: not controversial. Thinking something should actually be done about it: not that popular. Spending money / imposing costly regulation to prevent it: very unpopular.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

it's extremely controversial