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Conservatives are so FUCKING WEIRD (hexbear.net)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

~~I never said the bot made choices. I said it removed choices from the artist.~~ Whoops thanks for replying in good faith though.

Edit: The important thing is that the choices from the artist are getting taken away.

Also I never said you need technical ability to make art, I'm working from the unstated assumption that it is the choices we make when we create art that makes it... art. A person who is bad a doodling who nevertheless makes a drawing has made art - that same person putting a couple words into a generator prompt has not.

Last thing: don't fucking come at me with an argument about gatekeeping based on class and wealth when the only reason this fucking toy exists for you to play with in the first place is untold billions of hours of stolen labor from poor countries.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I never said the bot made choices. I said it removed choices from the artist.

you said

but every pixel that was generated that you don't change is a choice that the bot made that you didn't

Now that you have clarified what you really meant, that is helpful, but I hope you can see why I was confused by your original wording (bolded above). Also I don't think it removes choices from the artist since the artist is still free to discard whatever the AI makes and re-generate it or use a more traditional method. The freedom to reject the output if you don't like it is a choice along with the choice to make the prompt.

Also I never said you need technical ability to make art

That's fair. I'm sorry for misunderstanding you in that regard. I just find this subject interesting. I'm not coming at this from a place of anger or trying to annoy people.

untold billions of hours of stolen labor from poor countries.

Your correct and I wouldn't dream of disagreeing with this.

Last thing: don't fucking come at me with an argument about gatekeeping based on class and wealth when the only reason this fucking toy exists for you to play with in the first place is

Nevertheless I think it's more of a tool than a toy. The problem is that the tools are made by the workers and owned by the capitalists. We should be reacting to that economic arrangement and not the tools themselves.