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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He has said he wants a diplomatic solution similar to the one that Britain reached with China over Hong Kong.

Wonderful example. What happened to Hong Kong is something that no place in the world really wants to experience.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah the reason HK went the way it did was because China could credibly say "Give it to us or we take it". Argentina already tried the take it by force way, when their military was in a much better state than it is now, and there was effectively no military garrison on the islands. Argentina have pretty much zero leverage here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

last I heard, the people on falkland don't want to be argentinian either.

Which should be the biggest, and loudest, reason to oppose Argentinian demands for the island.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Majority of people in Hong Kong at the time didn't want to be part of China either, a lot of them left China already for a reason.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hong Kong was a completely different situation as the British signed a specific lease for Hong Kong with a set end date that was known all along. Nothing like that happened with the Falklands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's a common misconception, the 99 year lease was on the New Territories, rural areas in the north of HK. Hong Kong Island and Kowloon (the heavily urban bits you think of when you think Hong Kong) were under no such lease, they had been permanently ceded to Britain when it was just a fishing village on the coast.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I fear he was looking at it from China's side.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Being effectively conquered twice before being made to scede some of their land for a century while a foreign power floods the country with drugs?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think he meant lying when signing the handover treaty and not giving Hong Kongers the rights they agreed to for the time they agreed to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Exactly this. Otherwise, nobody should expect me to defend the British Empire of all things.

For all the bad things they did, at least they left HK as a democracy including some freedom of the press and expression.