▲ 257 ▼ Drivers Tend To Kill Pedestrians At Night. Thermal Imaging May Help. (www.forbes.com) submitted 2 years ago by L4s@lemmy.world [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world 149 comments fedilink hide all child comments Drivers Tend To Kill Pedestrians At Night. Thermal Imaging May Help.::Pedestrian automatic emergency braking (AEB), which may become mandatory on U.S. cars in the future, tends to not perform well in the dark.
[+] Phegan@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (20 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] Cort@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago Also, increase public transit options & availability. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) No thats communism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] isles@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yep! America: Of the Cars, By the Cars, For the Cars permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago I mean, long term that's a fantastic solution. Pretty sure this change can be implemented a lot sooner and a LOT cheaper, and save lives tho. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Limit the speed of private vehicles mechanically, the same way they do with ebikes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Phegan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) Funfact! Can't be bothered to look it up but I remember reading that lower speed limits actually make people more prone to speed. In most cases, if speed limit is low, people will try their best to hit it and even slightly go over it. In higher speed limits people tend to actually drive slower than speed limit dictates. This does, however, only apply to express ways and similiar, not city's limits...I mean, people are still gonna try to max their speed but I really don't think we can put it high enough for this to not apply and be safe anyway. Also, how the hell do americans have this problem when their cities spend 2/3 of the day being locked in slow moving traffic? .-. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Nugget@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Adjusting a speed limit is not enough, road engineers need to implement actual traffic calming measures to slow people down.. Fun fact, US pedestrian deaths went up during covid because there were fewer drivers and people could speed more easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In my country speeding cams work kinda well. People cry af about them but it's almost funny seeing traffic suddenly slow down in certain points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 2 years ago Speed cameras on Brazil have a lot of warnings before the camera is placed, so people slow down before the camera and reduces crashes. permalink fedilink source parent [+] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (9 children) It will help with pedestrian accidents but it will also be terrible for driving since you cannot reduce the distance between cities/commute length permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] Phegan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That’s the usual sentiment in social media comments but in reality most people don’t behave this way. We need to live in the real world if we want to change it. Living a delusion and expecting others to support it is not going to help in reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean until recently more people used to die in car accidents than by gunfire. It was the leading cause for kids. I am not advocating for lack of concern. But making cars less useful it’s not a solution since people still have to commute long distances in some countries. You have to weigh the benefits against the costs. If you believe that pedestrians should always be prioritized then you should be advocating for a complete ban on cars permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you believe that pedestrians should always be prioritized then you should be advocating for a complete ban on cars Welcome aboard, sailor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can you even afford a car? I somehow doubt it. you have that typical attitude of wanting to ban the things that are outside your reach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I could afford buying multiple in cash each year. Why would I ever do something so dumb, though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Good. Maybe we'll start designing our cities and lives for shorter commutes, benefiting ourselves and our environment? Might just be me tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Absolutely. ignoring the issue is not going to help. not sure how we can pressure "city designers" (no clue how it actually works) to effect the change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] force@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* It's less city engineers and moreso American/Canadian laws that make it illegal to build objectively better (measurably safer/more efficient/better for peoples' health & stress/better for the economy/better for individuals' finances) infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cort@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago Also, increase public transit options & availability. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) No thats communism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] isles@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yep! America: Of the Cars, By the Cars, For the Cars permalink fedilink source parent
[–] isles@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yep! America: Of the Cars, By the Cars, For the Cars permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago I mean, long term that's a fantastic solution. Pretty sure this change can be implemented a lot sooner and a LOT cheaper, and save lives tho. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Limit the speed of private vehicles mechanically, the same way they do with ebikes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Phegan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Phegan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children) Funfact! Can't be bothered to look it up but I remember reading that lower speed limits actually make people more prone to speed. In most cases, if speed limit is low, people will try their best to hit it and even slightly go over it. In higher speed limits people tend to actually drive slower than speed limit dictates. This does, however, only apply to express ways and similiar, not city's limits...I mean, people are still gonna try to max their speed but I really don't think we can put it high enough for this to not apply and be safe anyway. Also, how the hell do americans have this problem when their cities spend 2/3 of the day being locked in slow moving traffic? .-. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Nugget@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Adjusting a speed limit is not enough, road engineers need to implement actual traffic calming measures to slow people down.. Fun fact, US pedestrian deaths went up during covid because there were fewer drivers and people could speed more easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In my country speeding cams work kinda well. People cry af about them but it's almost funny seeing traffic suddenly slow down in certain points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 2 years ago Speed cameras on Brazil have a lot of warnings before the camera is placed, so people slow down before the camera and reduces crashes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nugget@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) Adjusting a speed limit is not enough, road engineers need to implement actual traffic calming measures to slow people down.. Fun fact, US pedestrian deaths went up during covid because there were fewer drivers and people could speed more easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In my country speeding cams work kinda well. People cry af about them but it's almost funny seeing traffic suddenly slow down in certain points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 2 years ago Speed cameras on Brazil have a lot of warnings before the camera is placed, so people slow down before the camera and reduces crashes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) In my country speeding cams work kinda well. People cry af about them but it's almost funny seeing traffic suddenly slow down in certain points. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 2 years ago Speed cameras on Brazil have a lot of warnings before the camera is placed, so people slow down before the camera and reduces crashes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 2 years ago Speed cameras on Brazil have a lot of warnings before the camera is placed, so people slow down before the camera and reduces crashes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (9 children) It will help with pedestrian accidents but it will also be terrible for driving since you cannot reduce the distance between cities/commute length permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] Phegan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That’s the usual sentiment in social media comments but in reality most people don’t behave this way. We need to live in the real world if we want to change it. Living a delusion and expecting others to support it is not going to help in reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean until recently more people used to die in car accidents than by gunfire. It was the leading cause for kids. I am not advocating for lack of concern. But making cars less useful it’s not a solution since people still have to commute long distances in some countries. You have to weigh the benefits against the costs. If you believe that pedestrians should always be prioritized then you should be advocating for a complete ban on cars permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you believe that pedestrians should always be prioritized then you should be advocating for a complete ban on cars Welcome aboard, sailor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can you even afford a car? I somehow doubt it. you have that typical attitude of wanting to ban the things that are outside your reach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I could afford buying multiple in cash each year. Why would I ever do something so dumb, though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Good. Maybe we'll start designing our cities and lives for shorter commutes, benefiting ourselves and our environment? Might just be me tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Absolutely. ignoring the issue is not going to help. not sure how we can pressure "city designers" (no clue how it actually works) to effect the change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] force@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* It's less city engineers and moreso American/Canadian laws that make it illegal to build objectively better (measurably safer/more efficient/better for peoples' health & stress/better for the economy/better for individuals' finances) infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Phegan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That’s the usual sentiment in social media comments but in reality most people don’t behave this way. We need to live in the real world if we want to change it. Living a delusion and expecting others to support it is not going to help in reality. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean until recently more people used to die in car accidents than by gunfire. It was the leading cause for kids. I am not advocating for lack of concern. But making cars less useful it’s not a solution since people still have to commute long distances in some countries. You have to weigh the benefits against the costs. If you believe that pedestrians should always be prioritized then you should be advocating for a complete ban on cars permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you believe that pedestrians should always be prioritized then you should be advocating for a complete ban on cars Welcome aboard, sailor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can you even afford a car? I somehow doubt it. you have that typical attitude of wanting to ban the things that are outside your reach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I could afford buying multiple in cash each year. Why would I ever do something so dumb, though? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That’s the usual sentiment in social media comments but in reality most people don’t behave this way. We need to live in the real world if we want to change it. Living a delusion and expecting others to support it is not going to help in reality. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children) I mean until recently more people used to die in car accidents than by gunfire. It was the leading cause for kids. I am not advocating for lack of concern. But making cars less useful it’s not a solution since people still have to commute long distances in some countries. You have to weigh the benefits against the costs. If you believe that pedestrians should always be prioritized then you should be advocating for a complete ban on cars permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you believe that pedestrians should always be prioritized then you should be advocating for a complete ban on cars Welcome aboard, sailor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can you even afford a car? I somehow doubt it. you have that typical attitude of wanting to ban the things that are outside your reach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I could afford buying multiple in cash each year. Why would I ever do something so dumb, though? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) If you believe that pedestrians should always be prioritized then you should be advocating for a complete ban on cars Welcome aboard, sailor. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can you even afford a car? I somehow doubt it. you have that typical attitude of wanting to ban the things that are outside your reach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I could afford buying multiple in cash each year. Why would I ever do something so dumb, though? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Can you even afford a car? I somehow doubt it. you have that typical attitude of wanting to ban the things that are outside your reach. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I could afford buying multiple in cash each year. Why would I ever do something so dumb, though? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago I could afford buying multiple in cash each year. Why would I ever do something so dumb, though? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) Good. Maybe we'll start designing our cities and lives for shorter commutes, benefiting ourselves and our environment? Might just be me tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Absolutely. ignoring the issue is not going to help. not sure how we can pressure "city designers" (no clue how it actually works) to effect the change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] force@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* It's less city engineers and moreso American/Canadian laws that make it illegal to build objectively better (measurably safer/more efficient/better for peoples' health & stress/better for the economy/better for individuals' finances) infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) Absolutely. ignoring the issue is not going to help. not sure how we can pressure "city designers" (no clue how it actually works) to effect the change. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] force@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* It's less city engineers and moreso American/Canadian laws that make it illegal to build objectively better (measurably safer/more efficient/better for peoples' health & stress/better for the economy/better for individuals' finances) infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] force@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* It's less city engineers and moreso American/Canadian laws that make it illegal to build objectively better (measurably safer/more efficient/better for peoples' health & stress/better for the economy/better for individuals' finances) infrastructure. permalink fedilink source parent