▲ 615 ▼ Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive (signal.org) submitted 2 years ago by u_tamtam@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world 170 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] z0rg0n@monero.town 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) Fr. Fuck signal for removing SMS support permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] KapiteinPoffertje@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) I assume that is exactly for one of the reasons they mentioned in the article: increasing costs for sms permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] witten@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z0rg0n@monero.town -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's what they told me when gave then feedback through their website. There's no free lunch and corporations aren't the most trustworthy source of information though so maybe it was about cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) isnt signal a nonprofit? not a corporation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z0rg0n@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago Some nonprofit organizations are corporations and have pretty shitty practices: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Wish_Network The Morman church is another US 'non-profit organization' yet somehow hordes billions. Trusting blindly without doing research because something is presented as a non-profit is a good way to be taken for a fool and separated from your money. When signal made their own cryptocurrency which they entirely premined was a huge red flag. Dropping SMS support was an annoyance that broke the camels back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I think you are right. I too was really mad at Signal for ditching sms, and THEN having the audacity to ask for donations! This article shines a light on the reasons, wow. Still, I would only donate if they kept sms in there. Not without sms because now it's just one more isolated platform and no longer a one-stop solution at it used to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago The sms cost is for account creation and verification on new devices, being an sms client didn't cost anything aside from maintaining that portion of the app permalink fedilink source parent [–] gulasch_hanuta@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago A bit of transparency at the beginning would've helped... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago One reason was worry that people accidentally send SMS when they mean to send a secure message permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Was split off, called 'Silence'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tcely@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago There were two SMS mistakes by Signal: https://signal.org/blog/goodbye-encrypted-sms/ https://signal.org/blog/sms-removal-android/ @MonkderZweite @z0rg0n permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KapiteinPoffertje@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children) I assume that is exactly for one of the reasons they mentioned in the article: increasing costs for sms permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] witten@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z0rg0n@monero.town -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's what they told me when gave then feedback through their website. There's no free lunch and corporations aren't the most trustworthy source of information though so maybe it was about cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) isnt signal a nonprofit? not a corporation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z0rg0n@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago Some nonprofit organizations are corporations and have pretty shitty practices: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Wish_Network The Morman church is another US 'non-profit organization' yet somehow hordes billions. Trusting blindly without doing research because something is presented as a non-profit is a good way to be taken for a fool and separated from your money. When signal made their own cryptocurrency which they entirely premined was a huge red flag. Dropping SMS support was an annoyance that broke the camels back. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I think you are right. I too was really mad at Signal for ditching sms, and THEN having the audacity to ask for donations! This article shines a light on the reasons, wow. Still, I would only donate if they kept sms in there. Not without sms because now it's just one more isolated platform and no longer a one-stop solution at it used to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago The sms cost is for account creation and verification on new devices, being an sms client didn't cost anything aside from maintaining that portion of the app permalink fedilink source parent [–] gulasch_hanuta@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago A bit of transparency at the beginning would've helped... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago One reason was worry that people accidentally send SMS when they mean to send a secure message permalink fedilink source parent
[+] witten@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z0rg0n@monero.town -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's what they told me when gave then feedback through their website. There's no free lunch and corporations aren't the most trustworthy source of information though so maybe it was about cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) isnt signal a nonprofit? not a corporation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z0rg0n@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago Some nonprofit organizations are corporations and have pretty shitty practices: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Wish_Network The Morman church is another US 'non-profit organization' yet somehow hordes billions. Trusting blindly without doing research because something is presented as a non-profit is a good way to be taken for a fool and separated from your money. When signal made their own cryptocurrency which they entirely premined was a huge red flag. Dropping SMS support was an annoyance that broke the camels back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] z0rg0n@monero.town -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's what they told me when gave then feedback through their website. There's no free lunch and corporations aren't the most trustworthy source of information though so maybe it was about cost. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) isnt signal a nonprofit? not a corporation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z0rg0n@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago Some nonprofit organizations are corporations and have pretty shitty practices: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Wish_Network The Morman church is another US 'non-profit organization' yet somehow hordes billions. Trusting blindly without doing research because something is presented as a non-profit is a good way to be taken for a fool and separated from your money. When signal made their own cryptocurrency which they entirely premined was a huge red flag. Dropping SMS support was an annoyance that broke the camels back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ninchuka@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) isnt signal a nonprofit? not a corporation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] z0rg0n@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago Some nonprofit organizations are corporations and have pretty shitty practices: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Wish_Network The Morman church is another US 'non-profit organization' yet somehow hordes billions. Trusting blindly without doing research because something is presented as a non-profit is a good way to be taken for a fool and separated from your money. When signal made their own cryptocurrency which they entirely premined was a huge red flag. Dropping SMS support was an annoyance that broke the camels back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] z0rg0n@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago Some nonprofit organizations are corporations and have pretty shitty practices: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Wish_Network The Morman church is another US 'non-profit organization' yet somehow hordes billions. Trusting blindly without doing research because something is presented as a non-profit is a good way to be taken for a fool and separated from your money. When signal made their own cryptocurrency which they entirely premined was a huge red flag. Dropping SMS support was an annoyance that broke the camels back. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah I think you are right. I too was really mad at Signal for ditching sms, and THEN having the audacity to ask for donations! This article shines a light on the reasons, wow. Still, I would only donate if they kept sms in there. Not without sms because now it's just one more isolated platform and no longer a one-stop solution at it used to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago The sms cost is for account creation and verification on new devices, being an sms client didn't cost anything aside from maintaining that portion of the app permalink fedilink source parent [–] gulasch_hanuta@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago A bit of transparency at the beginning would've helped... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago The sms cost is for account creation and verification on new devices, being an sms client didn't cost anything aside from maintaining that portion of the app permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gulasch_hanuta@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago A bit of transparency at the beginning would've helped... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago One reason was worry that people accidentally send SMS when they mean to send a secure message permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Was split off, called 'Silence'. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tcely@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago There were two SMS mistakes by Signal: https://signal.org/blog/goodbye-encrypted-sms/ https://signal.org/blog/sms-removal-android/ @MonkderZweite @z0rg0n permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tcely@fosstodon.org 3 points 2 years ago There were two SMS mistakes by Signal: https://signal.org/blog/goodbye-encrypted-sms/ https://signal.org/blog/sms-removal-android/ @MonkderZweite @z0rg0n permalink fedilink source parent