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Plans to pre-emptively defederate from threads? (slrpnk.net)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I just saw that lemmy.ml has pre-emptively defederated from threads. Are there any plans to do that here? I personally want nothing to do with Meta/Facebook, and I'm sure that's not an unpopular opinion around here.

edit: y'all, please pay attention to where you are when coming from all.

edit again: kbin really ought to make a post's home instance more clear.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think pre-emptive defederation is unnecessary, but the platform has been live for like two minutes so I'm reserving the right to change my opinion down the line. I want to see how things play out. My biggest concern is lack of moderation.

I'm not of the camp that wants to keep the Fediverse an exclusive club. I want ActivityPub to become a universally accepted and expected standard like email. I want to break the corporate vendor lock-in on social media so that billionaires are unable to completely control the digital commons. This is ideally the first step on that path.

I've had multiple conversations about this across multiple platforms and I've yet to get an realistic answer on how federation could be harmful to the Fediverse, outside of bad moderation. At which point we take the same action we take on any instance with poor moderation. Everything else has been vague gesturing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll just direct you to @ProdigalFrog's comment in this thread because I think it responds to your points better than I would be able to. Meta is bad for humanity as a whole, and they shouldn't be allowed to infiltrate an open platform such as ActivityPub.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm aware that Facebook is a bad company. That's why I refuse to accept their rebranding like most of you already have, because they are relying on that to try and shed some of the bad association with their name.

However, I agree with the person who responded to that comment; I can easily envision benefits, but nobody has been able to describe to me how they can harm us via federation. Every time I've asked it's only been vague gestures. I can see a way for us to inflict harm on them via federation by giving us the ability to siphon users from them without depriving them of connections. I cannot see the opposite happening, because people who are already here have explicitly opted out of their system to begin with. It seems to me that we have everything to gain and nobody can specifically describe what we stand to lose.

I'm not saying we should give them a chance; I'm saying we should use this as a weapon.