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Ocasio-Cortez endorses Biden's reelection campaign, sending a strong signal of Democratic unity
(www.independent.co.uk)
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Although I think Biden has overall done a good job I am disappointed that they're running someone who is 80 years old. I would also like to see a general shift to the left, but at the same time I realize that the increased political division in the US makes this unlikely in the near term.
Giving up the incumbent advantage at a time like this is short sighted at best, and destructive and dangerous at worst.
People always have some reason ready to roll out when telling you to settle for some shitty candidate you don't really like. I'm done with it. I compromised on Joe Biden to save America from Trump. I compromised in every election for my entire adult life. Now I'm voting for people I actually like. If the US is collectively dumb enough to go back to the GOP then we deserve the consequences of that choice.
You can call that selfish if you want but I've been waiting 35 years for the compromise candidate to be the one from my camp and there's always a bunch of armchair poly-sci experts coming out of the woodwork to explain why that would be irresponsible in the current political climate. Well too bad, I'm not voting for the geriatric anymore.
Must be nice to be a wealthy, single, white man who knows he won't suffer under a Trump admin.
Fuck the rest of the country, right? And our overseas allies.
Like I said, if America is collectively dumb enough to vote Republicans into power after everything that's happened then another 4 years of a boring Democrat isn't going to fix that problem. If we're headed for some sort of collapse I'd rather deal with that now rather than later. Call that what you like but it's not my way of doing things that got us in this mess in the first place so you'll have to forgive me if I don't put much stock in your "keep doing the same things and hope something magically changes" approach.
I personally believe someone in the Bernie Sanders mold has a better chance of pulling in moderate voters than a Joe Biden does.
I'm sorry but the idea that Bernie Sanders brings in moderate voters is obliterated by the fact that he gets blown out in primaries because of moderate voters
I don't think it's correct to assume politics is a sliding scale from left to right, and failing to appeal to democratic primary voters is a certainty of failure in a general election. I would paint democratic primary voters as very in favor of the institutions and systems of this country, and I don't think republican votes are fans of either.
They're most assuredly not fans of socialism, which is what they view progressives as espousing.
I'm sure plenty would vote against him for being a socialist, but I also think a good number would agree with his criticism of greedy billionaires ripping off sick people, or huge companies paying less in taxes than they do. I don't think everyone that voted for Trump was an absolute right wing nut, I think a good number of them think 'both parties are bullshit and at least Trump is outside the system'.
I'm aware that you think this, but if this were true he wouldn't lose by 3 million votes.
Again, the democratic primary voter is not a representation of the entire countries values, and those that hated Obama, and hated Hillary, are more likely to vote for someone that is willing to criticize the system than long standing democratic insiders.
Ultimately at this point I don't care to constantly speculate on possible differences in past elections. My point was to hopefully convey that the idea of political views of the people in America as a left-right slider is flawed, and the current selection process biases towards mild candidates that fundamentally are not effective enough in solving the problems we are facing.
Strong disagree. Populists can't govern and Biden and Obama can and could
I'm aware that you think this
I really don't understand this attitude after how far the entire country backslide under Trump after 2016.
Like, I get it, I felt the same way in 2016 and pissed away my vote, but you've got to realize how counter productive this is after how much more fucked everything got in four years right? Assuming you aren't leaving the country, you do have to live with the consequences of another Trump presidency and further erosion of your rights.
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Thanks for the pointless reply. Next time just downvote and spare people from having to read "I disagree with you" but in dumber form.