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[–] 32 points 2 years ago (23 children)

It's comical how many Hamas-apologists there are on this site.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    I literally haven't seen a single Hamas apologist. Nobody likes those terrorists, but those of us that pay attention don't like IDF either

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Really? They're absolutely everywhere on Lemmy:

    • IDF has fabricated evidence of Hamas using hospitals.
    • Israel is responsible for Hamas' own actions, often including the 7 October attack.
    • Hamas are noble freedom fighters against an occupation. The ends justify the means.

    Merely challenging some of these points can get you banned on a few instances.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Israel is responsible for Hamas' own actions, often including the 7 October attack.

    Israel not only created an environment where terrorism grows and thrives, they also funded Hamas early on in part of their effort to stamp out secular resistances. The burden of Hamas' existences falls on Israel too.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    the same way hamas doesn't represent palestine, netanyahu's government doesn't represent israel either. the funding of hamas was a far-right candidate's propaganda tactic, not something that the people of israel decided would be a good idea.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    While the 1st and 3rd points are nonsense, there's legitimate strong evidence for point 2. Far right Israeli politicians want this conflict.

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-20/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-brief-history-of-the-netanyahu-hamas-alliance/0000018b-47d9-d242-abef-57ff1be90000

    Which means there's 3 sides to the conflict, not 2 - civilians and 2 governments. And a ton of people here are supporting mass murder of civilians because they were born on the wrong side of a border.

    Edit: of course tribalists are downvoting facts with sources

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    It's not comical how many anti-Semitic and/or pro-genocide apologists are on Lemmy.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    It's weird how you are okay with genocide against Palestinians, including all the classic hallmarks of genocide via settler colonialism (displacement, apartheid and blockade, massive civilian damage, etc) that we've seen countless times since the Native Americans, but if anyone says that's wrong you immediately cry anti-Semitism. Israel is not the one in danger of being genocided here, they're the ones perpetrating it. Even lots of Jewish people can see it. To mix up the colonial ethno-state of Israel with all Jewish people is real, deceptive purposeful propaganda.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    I'm not okay with genocide against the Palestinians (or anyone else), hence the "pro-genocide" in my post above. I'm not okay with anti-Semitism either. I'm also firmly in the camp of "criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic".

    Both Hamas and the IDF (by extension, the Israeli gov't) are murderers or complicit in murder. Simple as that.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Oh I agree on all points. Looks like I jumped to conclusions there. Think I got you and someone else I was arguing with at the same time confused. Sorry about that 😅🙏

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I honestly haven't seen any. Every single person other than pro-Apartheid pro-Israel types seems to be making a very clear distinction between Palestinian civilians and Hamas.

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