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Second largest Lemmy instance preemptively un-friends Facebook (lemmy.ml)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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Lemmy.ml has now blocked Threads.net

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[–] 249 points 3 years ago (30 children)

Thats unfortunate. I'll be moving instances then. Giving Meta a chance is a lot like giving a mosquito a chance to not suck your blood.

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  • [+] 33 points 3 years ago* (5 children)
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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    Currently you can with with Lemmy Connect. Maybe with others as well, given the amount of apps coming out by the day. And I'm guessing they'll fold the feature into Lemmy/Kbin proper sometime in the future.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    My (limited) understanding is that if you (we) block other instances locally, that won't stop meta (or whoever) from accessing your (our) information and posts.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    Right, there are limitations to app based user blocking of instances. Lemmy/Kbin proper would need to implement a robust user account privacy framework to provide the granular control you're interested in. Personally, I'd like to see this as well.

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  • [+] 23 points 3 years ago (7 children)
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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Same, I was only donating $2 a month but I'm not alone in finding this completely unacceptable. I applied at lemmy.ml. It's the scorpion and the frog with these people suggesting we should just wait and see.

    "~Let's see if Zuck doesn't act like an anti-competitive asshole this time" <--where the hell is the logic in that?!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    How does one change instances?

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    How do you move? I signed up through .world but don't want a chance of touching the poo (meta).

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  • [+] -32 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (9 children)

    This behavior is why the fediverse alienate users and makes it hostile for new people to join.

    They didn't do anything, yet. Give them the chance but start with 2 strikes on their account already. They fuck up, THEN you defederate. Innocent until proven otherwise.

    Edit: go on, downvote me. Show me your face. Show me how you're all against growth on Lemmy and niceness to each other.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 years ago

    Innocent until proven otherwise.

    There are many years of proof already about facebook/meta acting very maliciously, actively breaking laws and being fined for it, is that not proof enough? How many more do you need before you can say they're not innocent at all?

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Innocent until proven otherwise.

    Corporations like Meta have shown time and time again that they cannot be trusted to play nice with anyone else. Have we already forgotten about Cambridge Analytica or the plethora of other scandals they've been at the center of? The proof has been in plain view for a while now.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    They don't get more data because they're federated. They literally the exact same amount of data as they do know just by scraping mastodon or Lemmy. They're an even player in this market. Somehow you all keep forgetting that. If you don't want meta do have data from activity pub, you being here already violates that ideal.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Okay, but that doesn't address any of the points I brought up.

    You said to give Meta a chance. The rest of us are broadly gesturing at all the shit they've done in the past, and how we want as little to do with that as possible.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    There is nothing they can do to fuck up your experience, ESPECIALLY on Lemmy though. Threads is a completely different concept from Lemmy and activity pub is well defined.

    The only thing they could do is just not moderate threads and therefore putting spam in everyone's feeds. That's about it. I don't think they're leaving that unmoderated.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like it would be trivially easy for Meta to make an army of bot accounts to manipulate whichever posts they want into being near the top of people's feeds. That could be regular ads disguised as normal posts (a la Reddit-style guerilla marketing), or even more political astroturfing.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Innocent until proven otherwise is a concept for criminal court.

    We aren't putting someone in jail, we are looking at their past business practices and deciding not to do business with them based on their obvious habits.

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