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Aboriginal Australians used as forced labor by European settlers, 1902 (lemmy.world)
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[–] 50 points 2 years ago (31 children)

Didn’t know Australians still had slavery so late in history.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Formally, it wasn't slavery. Effectively, it was.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I'm seeing chains on necks, looks like slavery to me. Even if they were prisoners, that is inhumane.

    Fucking greasy to think it's so close to recent history.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The current US prison system is effectively legalised slavery, and is a big reason why US system doesn't do reform and incentives recedivism

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Still literally in the US constitution. 13th:

    Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And it only took the bloodiest civil war in history, a war we're still paying the price for not going the extra mile and abolishing the southern states and replacing them with Union members.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Such is the price to end slavery in America and advance the worldwide abolitionist movement.

    And I wish federal occupation had lasted significantly longer, enough to replace the older generation with a enlightened, Yankee way of thinking and attitude. That or go the route of Jacob Smith and just shoot about everyone above the age of ten and sell all the land for cheap.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    doesn't count if you don't think those wearing chains are people.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago*

    What gets me is that yeah that's their excuse, but if someone treated, say, an orangutan or a baboon like this I'd think that was pretty fucked up too. We were so gross. We still are (dog fighting, circus elephants etc) but the cruelty that we're capable of without what is essentially moral peer pressure, is chilling to think about. Even today we fight tooth and nail against moral progress and treating everyone with respect.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    They didn't even class indigenous Australians as people, until late 1960's. They were considered fauna.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    Is it ? Australia hold a référendum this year to give a bit more rights to native people. They voted against it.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Yes?

    I am Australian. And the vote wasn’t about rights, it was about representation.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You can use the wording you want, Australia is a racist country that shows no respect to the native people.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I’ll take solace in knowing we will never be as racist as Europeans. Because we’re a proud multicultural country and you’re the lot who keep toying with nationalism and genocide.

    You would never hear anyone in Australia mutter the vile hate they spew towards Romani. And their treatment of refugees is so bad, that they make us look good in comparison.

    At the end of the day, outside of say NZ/Canada you will not find a less racist country.

    So cry all you want.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    He, it is not a contest. I never say Europe was less racist than other country/area. Just I don’t hide by using some words to softening the reality.

    I don’t try to move away the initial discussion : we don’t care if it is true or not that native people where considered as fauna. The point was native people are considered as second class people, that do not deserve respect, unfortunately.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    That’s not softening reality.

    The recently failed referendum gave zero rights to Aboriginal people. That was never the intention, because they already have the same rights.

    The Voice is one part of the healing process, to misframe it as something else only helps the people who voted against it.

    You’re obviously not equipped enough to understand the situation.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

    America still had slavery in the 1940s when the last slave was freed (might've been later than that) and it still has slavery in the form of prison labor

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Can you tell me more about that?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    China still has slavery today.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    hahahahaha you think this is late???

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Aboriginals we’re even denied a seat in politics just in the last few months. I remember being shocked they voted in Tony abbot ..who for years screamed about women’s menstruation in parliament. Australia is super backwards.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Abbott was also appointed Minister for Women.

    The Voice which, if I understand correctly, wasn't an offer of a seat in parliament, it was a constitutional amendment that would allow an advisory board for Aboriginal and Torres strait islanders. They wouldn't have had any actual power any way.

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